OAN Staff Abril Elfi
12:03 PM – Saturday, October 26, 2024
SEE: https://www.oann.com/newsroom/trump-appears-on-the-joe-rogan-experience/; republished below in full, unedited, for informational, educational, & research purposes:
Former President Donald Trump appeared in a nearly three-hour episode of the “The Joe Rogan Experience” podcast hosted by UFC commentator Joe Rogan.
On Friday, the 45th president appeared on Rogan’s podcast, which has 14.5 million followers on Spotify and 17.6 million subscribers on YouTube.
Trump talked about a variety of topics, which made the interview nearly three hours long.
The former president began by talking about John Bolton, who served as White House national security adviser until he was fired in 2019. He continued by saying how he had been warned by businessman Phil Ruffin that Bolton was a “bad guy,” but by then, Trump had already hired him.
“And he was right. But he was good in a certain way. He’s a nut job. And every time I had to deal with a country, when they saw this whack job standing behind me, they said, ‘Man, Trump’s going to go to war with us.’ He was with Bush when they went stupidly into the Middle East. They should never have done it. I used to say it as a civilian, so I always got more publicity than other people,” Trump said. “It wasn’t like I was trying,” Trump said. “In fact, I don’t know exactly why. Maybe you can tell me.”
“I could definitely tell you,” Rogan offered. “You said a lot of wild s— and then CNN in all their brilliance by highlighting your wild s— made you much more popular. And they boost you in the polls because people are tired of someone talking in this bulls— pre-prepared politician lingo. And even if they didn’t agree with you, they at least knew whoever that guy is, that’s him. That’s really him.”
Rogan went on to say that “the rebels are Republican now.”
“The rebels are Republicans now, though, like, you want to be invisible, you want to be punk rock, you want to, like, buck the system? You’re a conservative now,” Rogan said. “That’s how crazy. Now the liberals are pro-silencing criticism. They’re pro-censorship online. … [T]hey come in regulating free speech and now regulating the First Amendment. It’s bananas to watch.”
Trump also recalled his meeting with former President Barack Obama during the presidential transition period in which he said “Obama thought we were going to go to war with North Korea.”
Rogan then recalled how Trump had called North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un “Little Rocket Man” early on in his first term.
“I said, ‘Little Rocket Man, you’re going to burn in hell.’ And it was rough,” Trump said. “I got to know him better than anybody, anybody. And I said, ‘Do you ever do anything else? Why don’t you go take it easy and relax? Go to the beach?’ You know, kiddingly, I said, "You're always building nuclear power plants. Just relax. You don’t have to do it. Let’s build some condos.'”
Later on, Trump discussed his initiative to “Make America Healthy Again,” to which Rogan praised him for. He was also asked if he would consider having Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as part of his administration.
“Oh, I am, but the only thing I want to be a little careful about with him is the environment. Because, you know, he doesn’t like oil. I love oil,” Trump said. “I think just keep him out of the fire. So I’m going to keep him out of it a little bit. I said focus on health. Focus. You could do whatever you want, but, I got to be a little bit careful with the liquid gold.”
Rogan went on to reference how “there are chemicals and ingredients in our food that are illegal in other countries because they’ve been shown to be toxic.”
“There’s pesticides and herbicides, and there’s a lot of sh– that’s been sprayed on our food that really is unnecessary,” the podcaster said. “And there’s a lot of health consequences.” Rogan added that Kennedy recently told him that “more than 70% of young men are ineligible for the military because of their health.”
“But RFK is going to be – you know I think he’s a great guy,” Trump said.
“But I would say that Big Pharma wasn’t thrilled when they heard that,” Trump said. “I’ve always gotten along very well with him. I’ve known him a long time. He’s a different kind of guy. He’s very smart, great guy, and he’s very sincere about this. I mean, he really is. You know, he thinks we spend a fortune on pesticides and all this stuff, and then you end up at that chart is a terrible shot.”
Trump then went on to blast the Afghanistan withdrawal under the Biden-Harris administration. Rogen agreed, mentioning the 13 U.S. service members killed in a suicide bombing at Kabul airport and the billions of dollars worth of equipment left behind now seen in Taliban military parades.
Trump stated that President Joe Biden should have fired everyone involved in the withdrawal plan, criticizing retired Gen. Mark Milley, who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump and Biden.
He went on to say that U.S. troops should have left last from Bagram Air Base because it is “one hour away from where China makes its nuclear missiles” and should have taken all of their equipment with them.
“Every plane, every screw should have been taken out, every tent. And I said that. That’s when I realized that Milley was a dummy. I said, 'We're leaving, but I want to get everything out,'” Trump said.
“‘Sir, it’s cheaper to leave it,'” Trump said Milley told him.
“It’s cheaper to leave it?” Rogan asked. “Yeah, he said it’s cheaper to leave it,” Trump affirmed.
“Cheaper?” Rogan asked again. “Not more dangerous?”
“He just said cheaper,” Trump said. “I said ‘I want every plane, I want every tank, I want the goggles, said night goggles. They have all this stuff that these guys now have.’ He said, ‘sir, it’s cheaper to get out and leave it.’ I said, ‘so you think it’s cheaper to leave $150 million brand new airplane in there than it is to fly it out with a tank of jet fuel and put it in Pakistan, or just fly it directly back?”
“‘It’s cheaper to leave it.’ I said, ‘this guy’s nuts,'” Trump added. “I’m telling you, he was so stupid. He was so unwise. He was like an unwise man. And there were a number of them.”
Trump also said that he had spoken with the Taliban’s chief negotiator, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar.
“I had a couple of conversations with Abdul, and from the time I had those conversations, because they were shooting at our soldiers, you know, with the sniper stuff,” Trump said. “They were shooting a lot with Obama, much less with me. But they were shooting at them. And I said, get this guy on the phone. The press went nuts when they heard this. I had a great conversation – It was a tough conversation. 18 months later, there wasn’t one soldier that was ever shot at, and even Biden admitted it in a moment of stupidity.”
He concluded by calling Vice President Kamala Harris a “very low IQ person,” referencing when she compared him to Adolf Hitler.
“There’s the rhetoric is also that you’re Hitler and that in order to stop Hitler, you have to do whatever,” Rogan said. “I mean, you’re hearing this now, Kamala compared you, said you love Hitler yesterday.”
“Kamala is a very low IQ person. She’s a very low IQ. You know, I’m for taking tests too. I think anybody that runs for president should take it, they should give it a test,” Trump said.
“And it’s not an age thing,” Trump stated. “If you look back on history, 70s and 80s, your greatest, some of your greatest leaders in the world, world history, long-time world history, they were in their 70s, in their 80s. I think you should take cognitive tests. I think everybody – they say it’s unconstitutional, but I think that’s ridiculous. I think Kamala should have a test because there’s something missing. There’s something wrong with her.”
“Well, I think it’s pressure,” Rogan said. “I think the pressure and the scrutiny. You’ve been a celebrity for a long time, so you understand what this is like. But for someone who’s in her late 40s, who becomes a vice president, who runs for president, becomes a vice president, and then all of a sudden, the weight of the world is on your shoulders. And there’s all these people, a lot of people clam up.”
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