“HEBRAIC ROOTS” SEDER AT FAITH BAPTIST CHURCH, WILMINGTON, DELAWARE?~WHY ISN’T THE CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL NARRATIVE SUFFICIENT?

April 17, 2017 John

CHRISTIAN “HEBRAIC ROOTS” SEDER DESTROYS DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN OLD & NEW COVENANTS; MINIMIZES JESUS AS MESSIAH; RE-INTRODUCES LEGALISM, POWERLESS RELIGIOUS RITUALS

ADDING THE OLD COVENANT BACK INTO TO THE GOSPEL DURING HOLY WEEK?
THE HEBRAIC MESSIANIC MOVEMENT ATTEMPTS TO INFLUENCE GULLIBLE CHRISTIANS WITH EXTRANEOUS AND IRRELEVANT RITUALS & SYMBOLISMS

SEE: http://www.fbcwilmington.com/multimedia-archive/the-seder-message/

SEDER CONDUCTED BY ARI HAUBEN OF CHOSEN PEOPLE MINISTRIES:

Ari was raised in a traditional Reform Jewish home near Philadelphia.
He celebrated the Jewish holidays, attended Hebrew school, had a Bar
Mitzvah, and participated in Jewish camps and other traditional
activities. Despite all of this, he never really believed God was real.

In his early 20’s, Ari asked his Rabbi what he thought was going to
happen to him personally when he died. His response was that he didn’t
know. Ari was floored that the Rabbi didn’t have an answer for his own
self. Ari, therefore, began to question everything. Looking for answers
and truth, he began to examine Eastern philosophy, however, through the
love and witness of many believers, he came to the realization that “if
God was real”, it meant that he was a sinner in need of atonement and
forgiveness.

Because of his upbringing, Ari believed that Jesus and Judaism were
“opposites at their cores.” Thankfully, the two came together when he
prayed to receive Jesus as his Jewish Messiah on April 6, 1997. That day
he read the New Testament for the first time. Ari cried out to the Lord
and believed that He sent Jesus as the sacrifice in his place. And his
very first prayer (after salvation) was telling God that he was sorry he
had hated His name.

Soon after Ari’s profession of faith in
Jesus as Messiah, he had a growing burden for the lost. In addition to
sharing his faith as a Higher Education Administrator for over 10 years,
his passion for reaching both Jews and non-Jews led him to serve
full-time with two other ministries sharing the Good News with the
Jewish people.

Now on staff with Chosen People Ministries,
Ari’s desire is to help educate and equip believers to share about the
miracle of forgiveness of sin.

Ari is married to Karen, a Jewish believer, and today they have three precious daughters Rachel, Liya, and Talia.

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SEE OUR PREVIOUS POSTS:

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/04/the-messianic-tabernacle-experience.html

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/03/last-supper-ends-all-passovers-begins.html

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/03/passover-seder-vimeo-videos.html

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/03/jonathan-cahn-author-of-harbinger.html

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/03/justin-kron-teaching-hebraic-roots.html

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/03/answer-to-christian-who-went-to-seder.html

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/03/hebraic-craze-going-viral-should-last.html

https://ratherexposethem.org/2016/05/heretics-beth-moore-christine-caine.html

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SEDER AT FAITH BAPTIST CHURCH, WILMINGTON, DELAWARE:

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CONSCIENCE BINDING PASTOR DIGS HIS HEELS IN~IF YOU WON’T BE A “FUNCTIONING MEMBER”, YOU WILL BE EXCISED FROM THE BODY~

October 27, 2014 John

THE SORRY STATE OF ONE WOULD BE

EMERGING CHURCH THAT WANTS TO BE
“PURPOSE DRIVEN”
CODIFYING “SOUL BONDAGE”
FOR ITS MEMBERS

Job 22:6-“For you have taken pledges from your brother for no reason, And stripped the naked of their clothing.”

Job 24:3-“They drive away the donkey of the fatherless; They take the widow’s ox as a pledge.”

Job 24:9-“Some snatch the fatherless from the breast, And take a pledge from the poor.”

Ezekiel 18:12-“If he has oppressed the poor and needy, Robbed by violence, Not restored the pledge, Lifted his eyes to the idols, Or committed abomination;”

Galatians 2:21-“I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”

Mark 7:7-“And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.”
Matthew 5:37-“But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.”
James 5:12-“But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.”

MEMBERSHIP 2.0.1 REVISION:

(EXPECT MORE REVISIONS IN DAYS TO COME

AS THE LORD DIRECTS)

UNBIBLICAL CONSCIENCE BINDING PLEDGE #1 OF 6

(FORMERLY COVENANT 1 OF 6):
OATH: “I WILL BE A ‘FUNCTIONING’ MEMBER”;
AN “INACTIVE MEMBER IS
THE ULTIMATE OXYMORON”

WHEN A CHURCH IS NO LONGER FOR BELIEVERS,

AND BECOMES OUTWARD FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY,

IT BECOMES UNSCRIPTURAL & CARNAL

BY CATERING TO THE WORLD

IN MUSIC, WORSHIP, AND MINISTRIES

SEE OUR PREVIOUS POST AT:

https://ratherexposethem.org/2014/10/church-membership-covenants-unbiblical.html

SERMON OF OCTOBER 26, 2014:
PASTOR TUTEN OF LIBERTY BAPTIST CHURCH, BEAR, DELAWARE MODIFIES LAST WEEK’S SERMON POINTS, CLAIMING AFTER 6 MONTHS OF PLANNING THAT:

1) HE NEVER MEANT TO USE THE TERM “COVENANT” SIGNING, BUT RATHER HE MEANT “PLEDGE” SIGNING. HOWEVER, ONLINE DICTIONARIES DEFINE PLEDGE AS MORE SERIOUS, INVOLVING GUARANTIES AND/OR WARRANTIES OF PERFORMANCE. IN THE CASE OF LIBERTY BAPTIST IT IMPLIES A:

CONDITIONAL MEMBERSHIP;
ENFORCING SPIRITUAL EUGENICS
TO RID THE CHURCH OF
NON COMPLIANT PARTS

SEE: http://www.yourdictionary.com/pledge
EXCERPTS: The definition of a pledge is something held as security on a contract, a promise, or a person who is in a trial period before joining an organization. Pledge is defined as to give something as security for a loan, promise, make an agreement, or accept a potential membership.

noun

the condition of being given or held as security for a contract, payment, etc.: a thing held in pledge
a person or thing given or held as security for the performance of a contract, as a guarantee of faith, etc.; something pawned; hostage
a token or earnest
a drinking to someone’s health to express good will or allegiance; toast
a promise or agreement
something promised, esp. money to be contributed in regular payments
☆ a person undergoing a trial period before formal initiation into a fraternity, sorority, etc.

transitive verb

pledged, pledging

to present as security or guarantee, esp. for the repayment of a loan; pawn
to drink a toast to
to bind by a promise or agreement
to promise to give: to pledge allegiance, pledge money to a fund
☆
1. to accept tentative membership in (a fraternity, etc.)
2. to accept as a pledge ()

2) “PLEDGE” MAKING IS SCRIPTURAL, BUT “COVENANT” MAKING IS NOT, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE INSTANCES OF BOTH IN SCRIPTURE; PLEDGES BEING USED IN A MOSTLY NEGATIVE OR PEJORATIVE WAY, EQUATING IT TO SWEARING.

3) HE NEVER INTENDED TO ERADICATE EXISTING MEMBERSHIPS, BUT ONLY TO MAKE THEM BETTER UNDER VERSION 2.0., WHEREIN YOU GET TO CARRY OUT THE ORDERS FROM THE LEADERS, IN A TOP DOWN PYRAMID OF AUTHORITY.

4) CHURCH MEMBERS ARE NOT TO THINK OF THEMSELVES AS BEING ON A CRUISE SHIP, BUT A BATTLESHIP (OBSOLETE). IRRELEVANT TO TODAY’S UNREGENERATE WHO SEE THE CHURCH AS MOSTLY COWARDLY, NON-DOCTRINAL, NON-CONFRONTATIONAL, NOT OFFENSIVE, WHICH ARE THE SALIENT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE EMERGING CHURCH.

5) YOU MAY NOT CRITICIZE LEADERSHIP; YOU MUST SUBSUME YOUR INDIVIDUALITY TO THE FASCIST/SOCIALIST COLLECTIVE, WHETHER IT BE IN THE CHURCH OR IN THE COMMUNITY.
6) YOU WILL FIND THAT THE CHURCH IS NOTHING LIKE IT USED TO BE AFTER IMPLEMENTING THE WARREN/HYBELS/DRUCKER BUSINESS MODEL.
7) YOU CAN KEEP THE SIX (6) PLEDGES YOU SIGN; YOU DON’T HAVE TO TURN THEM IN TO LEADERSHIP. HOWEVER, WE WILL MAINTAIN A DATABASE ON YOU, TAKING NOTE OF EVERYTHING YOU SAY AND DO, FOR OUR BENEFIT AND THAT OF GOVERNMENT. SO DON’T BE “DIVISIVE” BY SHEDDING LIGHT ON OUR APOSTASY AND HERESY. THAT COULD DESTROY THE “CONSENSUS” WE HAVE BUILT WITH THE WORLD AND OUR EXPANSION PLANS FUNDED BY GOVERNMENT MATCHING MONIES. (UNBIBLICAL).

IS THIS WHAT “BATTLESHIP” MEMBERSHIP IS LIKE?
WHERE IS THE BATTLE BEING WAGED THEN?
1 Corinthians 14:8-“For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle?”

CREATING AN UNFORGETTABLE EMOTIONAL CHURCH “EXPERIENCE” FOR THE COMMUNITY,

BUT MINUS THE GOSPEL

PANDERING TO THE UNREGENERATE

WITH CARNIVAL STYLE EVENTS ONLY TO HELP THEM

“CROSS THE PROPERTY LINE” OF THE CHURCH.

2 Corinthians 6:14-“Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?”

SINGING “BREAK EVERY CHAIN”

BUT THEN PUTTING YOU IN CHAINS???

This Sunday, October 26, 2014, pastor George Tuten “treated” those in attendance with his ROCK STYLE/REPETITIVE singing and guitar playing, (Matthew 6:7), not with traditional songs or hymns, but with some of the worst contemporary music in existence. In this case, they were songs by Chris Tomlin (as last week), Matt Redman, and one by Tasha Cobbs’ “Break Every Chain”.

SEE: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/worshipsongratings.html#b

This is called the new paradigm of doing church, i.e., it’s not about you, who may already be saved, but to attract the unregenerate with the vile filth of today’s ecumenical, Catholic leaning contemporary “Christian”musicians, who have worldly associations.

In case you are not familiar with the above three musicians, here’s something you should know about them, after reading:

Alpha Course Building One-World Church

http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/alpha_course_building_one_world_church.html

Chris Tomlin:

Tomlin is a former staff member of Austin Stone
Community Church in Texas, which holds the emerging
church philosophy. It has an extremely weak doctrinal
statement that allows the widest possible ecumenical
relationships. Its objective is not just to preach the gospel to
lost souls but to “redeem” the city of Austin, which is
defnitely not what the apostles sought to do in the Roman
Empire.
Tomlin has a close association with Roman Catholicism.
Catholic Matt Maher wrote Tomlin’s hit song “Your Grace
Is Enough,” and Maher and Tomlin co-wrote “Crown Him
(Mastery)” and “Your Grace Is Enough.” Maher’s goal with
his music is to unite “evangelicals” with Roman Catholicism.
He says, “The arms of St Peter’s are really big” (“Catholic
rocker Matt Maher fnds cross-over appeal among
evangelicals,” Religion News Service, May 17, 2013). He says
that God has called him “to write music with Protestants and
be in ministry with them,” and, “What’s fantastic about it is
we’re all Christians from different denominations and we’re
learning to understand each other.”
Tomlin invited Roman Catholic Audrey Assad to perform
on his 2009 Christmas tour and album and sang her song
“Winter Snow” as a duet.
Tomlin supports the Worship Central training school
sponsored by Alpha International, the radically ecumenical
charismatic organization that was birthed from the “laughing
revival” at Holy Trinity Brompton in London. Tere is a
Roman Catholic arm of Alpha. Tomlin says, “Worship
Central is an important and much needed training ground
for today’s leaders. When it comes to leading the church, we
need each other, and Worship Central is a wonderful place to
connect” (www.worshipcentral.org).
Chris Tomlin, “the king of worship music,” is using his
music to build the one-world “church,” and nothing could be
more unscriptural and spiritually dangerous.
Matt Redman:

Matt Redman is one the most infuential names in the
contemporary worship movement. He supports the Worship
Central training school sponsored by Alpha International, the
radically ecumenical charismatic organization that was
birthed from the “laughing revival” at Holy Trinity
Brompton, London, England.
Matt Redman’s radical ecumenism and spiritual
carelessness is evident in that he is scheduled to participate in
the National Worship Leader Conference in 2011. A
prominent speaker at the conference is Leonard Sweet who
promotes a wide variety of New Age heresies. He calls his
universalist-tinged doctrine New Light and “quantum
spirituality” and “the Christ consciousness” and describes it
in terms of “the union of the human with the divine” which is
the “center feature of all the world’s religions” (Quantum
Spirituality, p. 235). He defnes the New Light as “a structure
of human becoming, a channeling of Christ energies through
mind body experience” (Quantum Spirituality, p. 70). Sweet
says that “New Light pastors” hold the doctrine of
“embodiment of God in the very substance of creation” (p.
124). In Carpe Mañana, Sweet says that the earth is as much a
part of the body of Christ as humans and that humanity and
the earth constitutes “a cosmic body of Christ” (p. 124). Sweet
says that some of the “New Light leaders” that have infuenced
his thinking are Matthew Fox, M. Scott Peck, Willis Harman, and
Ken Wilber. These are prominent New Agers who believe in the
divinity of man, as we have documented in the book The New Age
Tower of Babel. Sweet has endorsed The Shack.
In October 2010 Redman participated in the David
Crowder Band’s Fantastical Church Music Conference at
Baylor University. There he joined hands with Rob Bell, who
denies the infallible inspiration of Scripture, believes
practically everyone will be saved, denies the eternal
judgment of hell, and mocks the gospel of salvation through
the blood of Christ.
Tasha Cobbs:

http://tashacobbs.org/about/;
Excerpts:
“More than an artist, Tasha Cobbs is an innovative tool of influence with a passion for mentorship. Resulting from this passion came the launch of the iLead Escape (www.theiLeadEscape.com), a global ministry mentorship program that aids 2,000 mentees in sharpening the knowledge and execution of their gifts. In addition to this program, Tasha extended the reach of her mentorship with her debut book, WORSHIP 101, a manual that revisits the basics of worship.
On Monday, October 13th, 2014, thousands from near and far gathered for the live recording of her sophomore project with Motown Gospel/Universal CMG as she documented a body of work, that although done in the same vein of GRACE, will certainly stand alone because of its progressive and crossover approach.”
Singing at Women Thou Art Loosed 2012 “Break Every Chain”:

IF YOU COULDN’T MAKE SENSE OF THE ABOVE, YOU WON’T MAKE OUT ANY BETTER BELOW WHICH MORE CLOSELY RESEMBLES HOW PASTOR TUTEN SANG THIS BRAIN NUMBING REPETITIVE IDIOTIC MUSIC; IN THIS CASE IT IS SUNG BY THE JESUS CULTURE GROUP WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DOMINIONIST NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION MOVEMENT, BILL JOHNSON’S BETHEL CHURCH IN CALIFORNIA, (SEE: https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/07/dominionist-pentecostal-cindy-jacobs.html, and https://ratherexposethem.org/2012/12/new-apostolic-reformationthird.html)

AND IN PARTICULAR MORNINGSTAR MINISTRIES:

Kim Walker Smith “Break Every Chain” – MorningStar Ministries:

Trunk or Treat Family Night; They Took Food & Candy, Then Left Without The Gospel?

TUTEN DOSEN’T SAY IF THE GOSPEL WAS PREACHED OR EVEN TRACTS GIVEN OUT WITH THE FREEBIES. WHY?Tuten doesn’t say if the gospel was preached, tracts given out, or witnessing occurred. Why?

Tuten doesn’t say if the gospel was preached, tracts given out, or anyone witnessed.

FROM: http://www.libertybaptist.net/trunk-or-treat/

“Everyone is welcome to join us Saturday, October 25 at 6pm! Children and families are invited to our 1st ever “Trunk or Treat” at LBC.”

HOW “SAFE” IS THIS TO YOUR ETERNAL SOUL?

“Trunk or Treat is a safe environment where children can walk to over 30 decorated vehicles and collect candy. This event also includes the following activities FREE: hayride, food, photo booth, campfire and marshmallows, fire truck, a visit from the Chick-fil-A cow (6:00-6:30), games and lots more.

We look forward to seeing YOU there. Oh, and don’t forget to wear your costumes!”

(LIKE WE DO INSIDE THE CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY, HA HA)

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CHURCH MEMBERSHIP COVENANTS: UNBIBLICAL LEGALISTIC CONSCIENCE BINDING CONTRACTS~NOT FOR FREEDOM LOVING CHRISTIANS

October 21, 2014 John

THE DUMB SHEEP NEED HELP, AS YOU KNOW!

GNOSTICISM 2.0 IS BORN!

Lynn & Sarah Leslie of Crossroad, link below: “Oaths and covenants are a new form of legalism entering the church like a flood. They require more of us than Scripture requires. It is a horrible new form of bondage, accomplished in the name of a new church for the 21st century. This is a “transformation” not a “reformation.” It would return the church to the dark ages of oppressive State Church. This movement did not arise from God, but from the rapacious desires of evil men.”

YOU MUST INSTALL THIS CRITICAL UPDATE OR FAIL!

ALSO KNOWN AS THE “SHEPHERDING MOVEMENT 2.0”

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepherding_Movement)

(http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/04/shepherding.htm)

(http://www.crossroad.to/News/Church/Klenck3.html)

SUBSTITUTING LEADERS FOR SHEPHERDS,

BUT THESE ARE DEFINITELY NOT “SERVANT LEADERS”;

ALL THE POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE AS THE FIRST

THE NEW BUSINESS MODEL OF DOING CHURCH MEMBERSHIP

SEE: The Shepherding Movement Comes of Age

By Lynn and Sarah Leslie

January, 2004

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/04/shepherding.htm

EXCERPTS:

Dr. Robert Klenck, an orthopedic surgeon, has been speaking out at conferences around the country about the origination of this new covenant agenda. He explains that Rick Warren’s book, The Purpose-Driven Church, has sold over a million copies and that over 150,000 pastors and church leaders have been trained in his model. Rick Warren was mentored by Peter Drucker, a corporate management guru with strong ties to the New Age/New World Order. Drucker “influenced the start and growth of Saddleback Church.”
Drucker has dedicated much effort into bringing the church into conformance with the “systems” model of governance, which is known as Total Quality Management in the corporate world. In this model, parishioners are “customers.” The focus shifts to “outcomes” which means that people will have to be held “accountable” for “performance.” Certain rewards (“rights”) and “responsibilities” accompany these outcomes, and a small group structure like cell groups is a perfect way to ensure that people are meeting these “outcomes.” These “outcomes” or expectations are driven by people, not by the Lord or His Word. By implication, if one doesn’t meet the “outcomes,” there may be “penalties”.

Drucker is a communitarian, which is a modern “communist” who has effectually distanced their views from the old communists. In his communitarian model of governance, the State is in reality the only leg of the stool. The Corporate and the Church subsume their identities and comfortably merge with State into one comprehensive “system” of governance for mankind. Drucker’s ideas gave rise to the faith-based institution movement of the last decade.

It is not uncommon, therefore, to find that faith-based, government-financed “covenant” churches are requiring even more of their members. Members at one such church in Pennsylvania must participate in daily e-mails from the pastor, evening worship several nights a week, daily intercession activities, cell group activities, and up to 5 hours per week of “community service” in any of over a dozen state-funded, community-based “ministries.” Churches like this one have become “centers” for State charity work. They then become “accountable” to the “State” for the monies that they receive. When one signs an oath to uphold the covenant of this type of church, they are also agreeing to uphold the State/Church relationship!

The new oaths and covenants put a pressure on church people – a pressure that comes, not from God but from man. Peer orientation, fear factors, and the demands to conform or meet expectations prevail. The focus is on self-mastery, not God-directed discipline. Some will do the bare minimum just to “get by.” For others, good deeds that were formerly done in secret, arising out of love and compassion, are now done openly and boldly so that leaders will see and approve.

Oaths and covenants are a new form of legalism entering the church like a flood. They require more of us than Scripture requires. It is a horrible new form of bondage, accomplished in the name of a new church for the 21st century. This is a “transformation” not a “reformation.” It would return the church to the dark ages of oppressive State Church. This movement did not arise from God, but from the rapacious desires of evil men.

IS THERE A BIBLICAL MANDATE FOR

CHURCH MEMBERSHIP COVENANT AGREEMENTS?

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOUR PASTOR SPENT 5 WEEKS EXPLAINING THE NEED FOR YOU TO SIGN ONTO A “CONTRACTUAL” RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU AND THE CHURCH LEADERSHIP?

HERE’S A CHURCH THAT IS ABOUT TO IMPLEMENT A SIX MONTH PLAN TO GET YOU TO DO THAT, WITH THE GULLIBLE SIGNING
NO LESS THAN SIX (6) SEPARATE DOCUMENTS TO BIND YOUR CONSCIENCE, VIOLATING NOT ONLY SCRIPTURE, BUT ALSO REVISING CHURCH HISTORY:

THEY DIDN’T SIGN WRITTEN MEMBERSHIP COVENANTS

AT PENTECOST

Matthew 20:25-28-“But Jesus called them to Himself and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them. Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant. And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave —just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”

Galatians 5: 1-6-“Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.”

JUST LIKE MICROSOFT ANNOUNCING:

THE NEWEST, COOLEST, MOST ADVANCED OPERATING SYSTEM HAS JUST BEEN RELEASED; THE OLD OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NO LONGER BE SUPPORTED

THOUGHT YOU HAD MEMBERSHIP IN PERPETUITY? WRONG!

HE WANTS TO BE YOUR LEADER, NOT YOUR SHEPHERD

BY ERASING YOUR OLD MEMBERSHIP AND STARTING OVER;

JUST BECAUSE HE AND THE BOARD THINK THEY ARE WISER THAN

CHRISTIANS WHO CAME BEFORE THEM; THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO
IMPROVE ON HOW TO BE A MEMBER SINCE PENTECOST!!!
SIGN NOW, THERE’S A PRICE INCREASE TOMORROW!!!
DON’T QUESTION, ACT NOW!!!

GEORGE W. TUTEN III, PASTOR OF:

LIBERTY BAPTIST CHURCH, BEAR, DELAWARE WILL LOAD YOU WITH GUILT AND SHAME IF YOU DON’T SUBSCRIBE TO:

“‘CHARTER’ MEMBERSHIP 2.0”

(CHARTER MEMBERSHIP 1.0 WAS 1993)

AT: http://libertybaptist.net/

Membership Covenant Red Flags

SEE: http://thewartburgwatch.com/2011/02/25/membership-covenant-red-flags/;

AND: http://thewartburgwatch.com/2011/02/24/spiritual-abuse-final-exam-%E2%80%93-analyze-a-membership-covenant/

EXCERPTS FROM FIRST ARTICLE ABOVE:

While crowds of protesters in the Middle East are clamoring for freedom from oppressive dictatorships, it appears that some Christians who live in the land of the free are being coerced into signing membership covenants based on a Moses Model of Old Covenant “rule”.
Perhaps without realizing it, these brothers and sisters in Christ are renouncing Paul’s teaching to the Galatians and reverting to Old Testament law, which we believe is being imposed on them by their church leadership. This is a hybrid form of Christianity that the Apostle Paul warned against.

RED FLAG #1 – Faulty Theology Regarding the Bride of Christ

RED FLAG #2 – Elder / Parental Authority

RED FLAG #3 – Mandatory Small Group Participation

RED FLAG #4 – Non-members Must Submit to Elder Authority and Discipline

RED FLAG #5 – Disenrollment and Leaving

As our loyal readers know, Derek Prince and Bob Mumford publicly apologized for the abusive practices of the Shepherding Movement. Sadly, another generation has arisen that has no knowledge of Shepherding aka “Discipleship”. We fear that they are the “target market” of these hyper-authoritarian churches. After all, what age group will knowingly enter into a relationship with a church leader who is their “parental authority”?

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Covenantal Nomism

SEE: http://svchapel.org/resources/articles/23-doctrine/559-the-new-perspective-on-paul-part-1 (PLUS PARTS 2 & 3)

EXCERPTS:
Covenantal nomism is a centerpiece in the theology of the NPP. Quoting Sanders, Guy Waters gives this definition:

One enters the covenant by baptism…. Once one enters the covenant, then membership provides salvation. Obedience to (or repentance for a transgression of) a specific set of commandments keeps one in the covenantal relationship, while repeated or heinous transgression removes one from membership.[4]

Under covenantal nomism one is placed in the covenant through the grace of God (although baptism is necessary). One does not earn a place in the covenant through works (except the work of baptism). However to maintain one’s position in the covenant requires obedience to the laws of the covenant. One enters the covenant by faith but stays in by works. Jack Hughes is correct when he notes,

The similarities to Roman Catholic theology are very striking. Roman Catholic theology teaches that infant baptism places one into the “covenant community” and as long as that person continues to observe the sacraments, he will preserve himself and be saved. That is legalism, salvation by works.

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MEMBERSHIP COVENANT OF MARK DRISCOLL’S MARS HILL CHURCH:

SEE: https://marshill.com/membership/covenant

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Cross Baptist Church Membership Signing:

Uploaded on May 20, 2008

This video was of a recent service at The Cross Baptist Church which is a new church plant in Fort Worth, Texas. In an effort to take membership seriously, a new member class preceded a covenant signing ceremony.

Covenant Membership Videos (3 parts):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4onL4r2MsMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-iZzU_3o18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4uO8DIoPOM

Membership Covenant Video “101”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xs1Ni99Ff0

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THE SHEPHERDING MOVEMENT REVISITED:

SEE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepherding_Movement

The Shepherding Movement (sometimes called the “Discipleship Movement”) was an influential and controversial movement within some British and American charismatic churches, emerging in the 1970s and early 1980s. The doctrine of the movement emphasized the “one another” passages of the New Testament, and the mentoring relationship described in 2 Timothy.

History

It began when four well-known Charismatic teachers, Bob Mumford, Derek Prince, Charles Simpson, and Don Basham, responded to what they saw as a moral failure in a charismatic ministry in South Florida. Witnessing this failure, the four men felt mutually vulnerable without greater accountability structures in their lives. They also felt the charismatic movement was becoming individualistic and subjective. These realizations, led them to mutually submit their lives and ministries to one another. Ern Baxter was later added to the core leadership of the group, and they became known as the “Fort Lauderdale Five.”

“A less known sixth associate was John Poole. Together these individuals formed the organization that would be ‘the center of one of the most violent controversies (i.e., the Discipleship/Shepherding controversy) in Protestant charismatic history,’ Christian Growth Ministries (CGM), headquartered in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.”

Their relationships, and the doctrines which they began to emphasize in support and definition of these relationships, gained wide approval, as they addressed a strongly felt three-fold need of many in the burgeoning charismatic movement: greater accountability, stronger character development, and deeper relationships. Other Charismatic ministers and some Pentecostal began to submit to the authority of the Ft. Lauderdale Five. The vertical, descending, “chain-of-command” the five ministers were successful in establishing —

“was a pyramid-shaped, multi-tiered organizational structure, which had at the top echelon of the pyramid (it just so happened) none other than the Fab Five themselves, who claimed (conveniently) to be in “submission” to each other, which arrangement, they purported, acted as a fail-safe “checks and balance” system to totally preclude them from falling prey to the corruptive properties of absolute power to which, historically, so many others (albeit, less spiritual than they, of course) succumbed.”

At the zenith of the pseudo-movement, “They had a national network of followers who formed pyramids of sheep and shepherds. Down through the pyramid went the orders, it was alleged, while up the same pyramid went the tithes.” The relationships that were formed became known theologically as “covenant relationships.” A network of cell groups were formed. Members had to be submitted to a “shepherd”, who in turn was submitted to the Five or their subordinates. “…large numbers of charismatic pastors began to be shepherded by the CGM leaders, a development that went uncharted but not unnoticed. It was uncharted because these relationships were personal and not institutional, so there were never any published lists of pastors and congregations being shepherded by CGM leaders….” At its height, an estimated 100,000 adherents across the US were involved in the networks.

Some of the early leaders of the movement came out of Campus Crusade for Christ, but Crusade itself did not embrace it. Other movements influenced by the Shepherding doctrine were the Shiloh houses scattered across the USA (some of them transitioned into Calvary Chapels when they abandoned the shepherding movement ideas), International Churches of Christ, Maranatha Campus Ministries, and Great Commission International (today known as Great Commission Ministries/Great Commission Association of Churches). The movement emphasized the importance of a network of accountability within church members, with many individuals acting as personal pastors to others. In many cases, shepherding relationships existed outside the bounds of individual churches, leading to the unusual situation of a church member being accountable not to others in his/her church, but someone outside the church.

Criticism and controversy

The movement was a controversial one:

“The heat of the controversy can be captured by reading an open letter, dated June 27, 1975, from Pat Robertson to Bob Mumford. Robertson said that in a recent visit to Louisville, Kentucky, he found cultish language like”submission” rather than churches, “shepherds” not pastors, and “relationships” but not Jesus. Robertson traveled to ORU and found a twenty-year-old “shepherd” who drew tithes from fellow students as part of their submission. Robertson, drawing from Juan Carlos Ortiz’s Call to Discipleship, charged the leaders with placing personal revelations (rhema) on par with Scripture. He quoted a devotee as saying, “If God Almighty spoke to me, and I knew for a certainty that it was God speaking, and if my shepherd told me to do the opposite, I would obey my shepherd.”

The movement was denounced by charismatic leaders such as Pat Robertson and Demos Shakarian, and a 1975 meeting (known as “the shoot-out at the Curtis Hotel”) to resolve the dispute achieved little.

“Pat Robertson banned the CGM leaders and erased all tapes that included them. Robertson used CBN to pronounce the shepherding teaching ‘witchcraft’ and said the only difference between the discipleship group and Jonestown was ‘Kool-Aid.’ Kathryn Kuhlman refused to appear together with Bob Mumford at the 1975 Conference on the Holy Spirit in Jerusalem.Demos Shakarian the founder and director of FGBMFI declared the CGM leaders persona non grata. The number of voices swelled as criticism came from Dennis Bennett, Ken Sumrall, Thomas F. Zimmerman (General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God), and David duPlessis.”

The Fort Lauderdale Five eventually parted company. Derek Prince and Bob Mumford both publicly distanced themselves from the teachings. Derek Prince withdrew in 1983, stating his belief that “we were guilty of the Galatian error: having begun in the Spirit, we quickly degenerated into the flesh.” Bob Mumford issued a “Formal Repentance Statement to the Body of Christ” in November 1989 and was quoted as saying, “I repent. I ask forgiveness.” In the same article, Mumford also acknowledged abuses that had occurred because of his teaching on submission: “…Mumford decided that he needed to publicly ‘repent’ of his responsibility in setting up a system where so many people were hurt by misuses of authority. ‘Some families were split up and lives turned upside down,’ says Mumford. ‘Some of these families are still not back together.'” This emphasis resulted in “perverse and unbiblical obedience” to leaders, said Mumford.

“In his statement, Mumford admitted that he had not heeded earlier warnings about doctrinal error from Hayford and two others. “While it was not my intent to be willful,” he said, “I ignored their input to my own hurt and the injury of others.” …He admitted that there had been an “unhealthy submission resulting in perverse and unbiblical obedience to human leaders.” He took personal responsibility for these abuses, saying that many of them happened under his sphere of leadership.”

Today

The degree to which the Shepherding Movement still exists today is unclear. While both Charles Simpson and Bob Mumford have made public statements disavowing the movement, or at least distancing themselves from it, Simpson’s biography on the website of Charles Simpson Ministries highlights his co-founding of New Wine Magazine and specifically mentions Baxter, Mumford, and Prince as “notable Bible teachers” associated with the magazine. The website also lists Derek Prince Ministries and Lifechangers by Bob Mumford as “ministry allies.”

David Moore’s 2004 book on the Shepherding Movement takes an impartial, scholarly look at the movement, which includes interviews with all living primary and many secondary individuals.

The Shepherding Movement ideologies live on today in some groups, most notably the Korean group called University Bible Fellowship, who is currently active on over 70 US college campuses.
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EPHESIANS 5:11-“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

A PUBLIC SERMON NECESSITATES PUBLIC EXPOSURE, SINCE THE SOULS OF MANY ARE HANGING IN THE BALANCE:

PASTOR TUTEN SHOWS HIS TRUE COLORS;

NOT USED TO BEING CRITIQUED

PASTOR TUTEN DEFAULTS TO “AD HOMINEM” ATTACK,

FALSE ACCUSATION, FALSE GUILT

AND MISAPPLICATION OF MATTHEW 18

IN HIS DEVILISH RESPONSE;

SHOWS NO REPENTANCE; JUST BOW DOWN TO HIM,

AS SEEN BELOW:

Republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:

“I assume you are the author of the article that I just read that you posted relative to a sermon I delivered to our church (Liberty Baptist in Bear, Delaware) just yesterday morning. I also assume that we must have met and that you have had an opportunity to cross check your “facts” directly with me since you apparently think you know me so well that you can go directly to a blog with my picture and alleged quotes within 24 hours of said message without making even a feeble attempt to reach out to me and get clarification on what is a massive misrepresentation of me and what I am attempting to do in this sermon series. Oh, that’s right – we have NEVER met and you never even attempted to follow the basic principles laid down in Matthew 18 (you know, the part that commands you to go to the one with whom you have “aught” – ALONE!) or show to me an attempt at respect. I am disgusted that you would do this. I am sure that in your mind you are completely justified but in reality you are completely wrong in your conclusions and assumptions. You don’t know me and you know nothing about me so why don’t you go back to the hole you crawled out of and leave me alone.

Having said that, I am NOT afraid of you nor would I shy away from an opportunity of talking TO you. So since you showed your incredible smallness by what you did, I will show you another way. If you are sincerely interested in getting clarification directly from me, I am more than willing to talk with you. My cell # is 302.438.1787.

Do the right thing, John.

George W. Tuten III – Senior and Founding Pastor of Liberty Baptist Church in Bear, Delaware.”

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FAMILY INTEGRATED CHURCHES: RIFE WITH DOMINIONISM, PATRIARCHY, & HERESY

January 14, 2014 John

The Vision Forum Staff and Families at the Alamo in San Antonio, Texas

DOUG PHILLIPS & FAMILY

David Cloud of Way of Life, has released a thoroughly researched article reprinted below in full, unedited, for informational, educational, and research purposes. It is excellent, and well worth your time reading.
See:
http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/a_warning_about_doug_phillips_vison_forum.html
Also see:
National Center for Family Integrated Churches: https://ncfic.org/
Family Integrated Church Directory: http://familyintegratedchurch.com/
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_integrated_church
Vision Forum: http://www.visionforum.com/
Rethinking Vision Forum: http://rethinkingvisionforum.org/

A Warning About Doug Phillips,

Vision Forum, and the Integrated Church

January
14, 2014 (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O.
Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)

Vision Forum has shut down because of the immorality and shady dealings of its founder — http://www.visionforumministries.org/

In
a report entitled “Doug Phillips’ Mentor and Spiritual Father Speaks
Out,” December 19, 2013, http://jensgems.wordpress.com, Pastor Robert
Gifford testifies as to Vision Forum founder Doug Phillips’ error,
deception, and infidelity. Phillips had claimed Pastor Gifford as his
mentor.

Following are some excerpts to this report, followed by my own warning about Vision Forum and Integrated Church.“I
grieve over the way Doug Phillips has misrepresented me. But that
doesn’t bother me the most. God will vindicate me. What bothers me the
most is how Doug has defamed the testimony of our Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ. It breaks my heart the way he’s discredited and maligned the
Word of God. He twisted the Word of God for his own advantage. I also
grieve that so many people have been harmed by Doug’s teachings that I
think it’s necessary for me to speak out. Doug has a dual personality.
He’s been leading a secret life. It’s like the movie Catch Me If You Can.”

“I
was supposedly Doug’s spiritual father, but he invited this man, John
Thompson, to come and instruct me about marriage and family. Doug knew
I’d been teaching what the Word has to say about marriage and family for
years. I had over a hundred messages I’d given on marriage and family.
Doug orchestrated this whole evening so that Thompson could indoctrinate
me in Patriarchy. We sat around the table while everyone listened to
this man lecture me. After he got done Doug had us all move into the
living room where the men all sat down on the couches. My wife sat next
to me; but I noticed all the other women stood behind their husbands,
including Beall. It was very strange. They just stood there the whole
time behind their husbands. I thought we were going to have a nice
conversation. But it wasn’t a conversation, and it was very
uncomfortable. This guy Thompson took over and started asking me
questions. The last thing he asked me was, ‘If you were in a grocery
store and your children started to act rebellious, how would you
respond?’ So I said, ‘I don’t go shopping. My wife shops. Honey, what
would you do?’ So my wife starts to answer and this Thompson guy cuts
her off and says, ‘Excuse me! I’m speaking to the men!’ At this point I
really had to hold myself back. Doug just sat there the whole time and
said nothing. It was obvious that Doug set this whole thing up. At this
point we got up and left.”

“When
Doug left Virginia to move to San Antonio to start Vision Forum, I
warned him to stay away from John Thompson and Patriarchy. I told him
‘It’s a tyrannical way to lead the family. It’s not biblical’.”

“I
think men like Doug get into Patriarchy because they’re weak insecure
men. So they gather a bunch of other men around them to figure out how
to make their wives do what they want. They don’t know how to lead their wives. All they know how to do is force
them. A man is supposed to lead his wife lovingly, sacrificially.
unreservedly. It’s clear from Ephesians 5. The Bible calls the wife a
‘helpmeet’. What that means is that she’s a counselor. She’s supposed to
give counsel to her husband, and the husband is supposed to listen to
her. I’ve taught this for years. We men have blind spots. We need godly
women to give us counsel. She’s a counterbalance to us.”

“Doug
was going around behind my back in my church telling people that Sunday
school was evil. I confronted him about it and he lied and said he
hadn’t. But I confronted him with the fact that ten families had come to
me and told me he’d told them that Sunday school was sin. He told me,
‘I never said that. You’re misrepresenting me’. Doug was very divisive
of the church. Several families left because of him, but I was able to
prevent a church split. But that’s only because I put a stop to what he
was trying to do behind my back. I kept catching him doing dishonest
things like that where I’d confront him for something and he’d lie about
it. It happened four times in a row.”

“It’s not a sin for a
woman to work outside the home. In fact there are times where it may be
necessary for a woman to work outside the home to show her love for her
husband and to complement him. This idea that a woman has to remain
within the four walls of the home is nowhere found in Scripture.”

“Doug
has misrepresented me in the worst sense. He’s made me out to be a
Dominionist. He’s put it in print. He’s said it many times. It’s libel.
Dominionism is completely contrary to everything I taught. I think that
much of Doug’s views of Dominionism came from the Shepherding movement.
There’s a lot of similarities. He also teaches the same thing the
Muslims teach which is you take over the world by having lots of babies.
You establish an army through your children. It’s important to
understand this. If you look at Doug through all his advertisements, the
Vision Forum, he’s got his kids on the covers dressed in armor. This is
what they’re doing. They’re forming armies through their families. I’m
just the absolute opposite of all that.”

“Doug and his brother
Brad came to my home and told me, ‘Pastor Gifford, we believe that the
qualifications for membership in the church are wrong. We believe that
only home schoolers should be members of the church’. I told them, ‘Do
you realize what kind of elitist attitude you have? Do you realize what
you’re doing? This is totally anti-biblical. This is the problem that
the early Jewish converts had when they thought only they could be
members of the church and the Gentiles had to be excluded. What you have
is an elitist mentality, and it’s going to turn into a cult if you’re
not careful’. It was over that issue that Doug left my church and moved
to Texas to start Vision Forum and his own church.”

“All the
these issues cause me great heartache, but nothing is so dreadful to me
as Doug’s infidelity. In his pride Doug came to believe that he could
live like a king with no accountability to anyone, even to God. The
result is always immorality. Doug was taught in word and deed to live a
pure and holy life that honored our triune God and His Word. He’s
‘turned from the holy commandment delivered unto him’ (1 Thes 4:1-8) to a
system of belief and practice that justifies immorality. May the grace
and mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ quicken Doug and bring him to a place
of true repentance and faith.”

The
previous quotes are from “Doug Phillips’ Mentor and Spiritual Father
Speaks Out” by T.W. Easton, December 19, 2013,
http://jensgems.wordpress.com.

THE INTEGRATED CHURCH AND VISION FORUM
By David Cloud
November 29, 2011

I
am writing about the Integrated Church Movement and Vision Forum in one
report, because they are so closely tied together. While the Integrated
Church Movement is larger than Vision Forum, Vision Forum is probably
the most influential part of it. The Integrated Church Movement (ICM), also called the Family Integrated Church, is defined as follows:“The
family-integrated model jettisons all age-graded ministries. Those who
adhere to this model view each family unit (single or married, with or
without children) as one ‘block’ that comprises the local church. That
is, they view the church as a family of families. They view the church’s
purpose as equipping the parents, primarily the fathers, to evangelize
and disciple their children” (Terry Delany, “Three Perspectives on
Family Ministry,” March 18, 2009).
It is not an organization but a philosophy, and there are many varieties of Family Integrated churches. THE GOOD
There are many biblically-sound things that are emphasized by the Integrated Church movement.

It
emphasizes building godly families and it resists the cultural way of
parents abdicating their responsibilities to government schools and
church programs.

It urges fathers to take their rightful place as committed and involved leaders and instructors.

It emphasizes separation from the world’s philosophies and ways.

It
exposes the danger of the typical segregated church ministry that
follows the world’s pattern by putting young people together too much to
be influenced by their peers and does not emphasize enough parental
responsibility in training, perhaps even detracting from that
responsibility.

The Integrated Church material has many helpful statements on these particular issues. THE DANGERS
But there are also some serious dangers represented by the Integrated Church movement.1. The Integrated Church has often led to the downplaying of the importance of the biblical church.
This
is not always true, but it is often true. Vision Forum warns about
“nomadic families that flit from church to church, or renegades who
refuse to place themselves under the accountability of a local church,”
and adds, “God requires His people to be under biblical local churches
with biblical preaching, biblical church government, biblical
ordinances, and biblical discipline.”

This warning is an admission that this is a problem.

In
fact, the movement is rife with this error. Many have replaced a
biblical church with “home church” where the fathers are the pastors.
Others have tried to start “churches” with a few home-schooling families
though they aren’t qualified and divinely called to the task.

The
Integrated Church movement has turned the church into a “family of
families,” but the church is much more than a “family of families.” The
apostle Paul wasn’t married, and he emphasized the importance of the
unmarried condition (1 Corinthians 7:7-8, 25-35). The church’s main task
is the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19-20; Mark 16:15; Luke 24:48; Acts
1:8), and when the gospel is preached effectively, the result is the
salvation of single people and those from all sorts of broken families.
If the emphasis is on the ideal family, on the church being “a family of
families,” a great many are left out.

We see this in our church
planting work in South Asia. One of our churches is eight years old,
and a high percentage of the members are either unmarried young people
or are men and women representing broken homes. Several of the women
have unsaved husbands. Some of the husbands abuse them and try to hinder
their faith in Christ; at least one is an abusive drunkard. The wife of
one of the male church members left him after he came to Christ. We
have only a handful of families so far that are composed of both husband
and wife that are saved and are trying to raise their children right.
In many cases the wives can’t read and the parents have only the
slightest clue of how to raise their children for Christ, though we are
trying to train them. If our emphasis were on “a family of families,” we
would be a very discouraged group.

Our goal is definitely to
produce godly Christian families, but our church is not a family of
families. It is a church! We are busy teaching the people how to build
godly homes and discipline their children biblically, but it is very
slow and somewhat discouraging work, because it is all brand new to
them. The Hindu culture knows nothing about such things. Most of our
church members had never even seen a Bible until they heard the gospel
through our evangelistic ministries. The vast majority are first
generation Christians, saved out of endless generations of pagan
darkness.

What we need are New Testament churches that seek to
build strong families and that do not hinder the families by such
worldly things as entertainment-focused youth departments. To that
degree we agree with the Family Integrated philosophy, but only to that
degree, because that is as far as the Bible allows us to go.2. The Integrated Church lacks understanding about the danger of New Evangelicalism.
The
Integrated Church is largely an evangelical movement rather than a
fundamentalist one. Popular speakers at their conferences include Ken
Ham of Answers in Genesis and other New Evangelicals. You will find
frequent positive references to evangelical leaders. There is little or
no call for ecclesiastical separation.

This is no light matter,
as the Bible emphasizes the doctrine of separation from false doctrine
and compromise (e.g., Romans 16:17; 2 Cor. 6:14-17; 2 Thess. 3:6; 1
Timothy 6:1-5; 2 Timothy 3:5; Titus 3:10). (See “New Evangelicalism: Its
History, Characteristics, and Fruit,” which is available from Way of
Life Literature in book and e-book formats.)3. The Integrated Church neglects the Great Commission.
If
you look through Integrated Church literature and web sites, there is
little emphasis on the Great Commission and preaching the gospel to the
ends of the earth. I am not saying there is nothing at all, but there is
far more emphasis on the family and other things. Their conferences are
not missions conferences or evangelism conferences but family and
dominionist/reconstructionist conferences (emphasizing the building of
the kingdom of God in the here and now). Preaching the gospel to the
ends of the earth is not even mentioned in Vision Forum’s mission
statement.

There are exceptions such as Antioch Community Church
in Elon, North Carolina, which lists the following as two of their
distinctives: “commitment to local and world missions” and “planting
other churches.”

This church appears to be the exception rather than the rule.

The
family is not an end in itself. The objective of both family and church
should be the fulfillment of the Lord’s Great Commission, which He
emphasized greatly after He rose from the dead and before He ascended to
Heaven (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15; Luke 24:44-48; John 20:21; Acts
1:8).

The book of Acts models the working out of the Great
Commission rather than the Family Integrated Church model. Though we
believe in a strong emphasis on godly families, this should not be an
end in itself. Paul, a single man who could not model the strong family
emphasis, preached the gospel and started churches. Paul took the young
Timothy away from his family and discipled him apart from his father and
mother and grandmother, and there is no evidence that Timothy ever
married. 4. The Integrated Church is legalistic, having gone beyond the Bible in making rules about family and church.
The
Integrated Church tends to be very legalistic. There is much liberty
within the biblical model for both the family and the church, and it is
legalistic to make laws that go beyond the biblical bounds.

For
example, there is the teaching that the church must always be “family
integrated.” A lecture published by Vision Forum says, “The biblical
example is that entire families are present for corporate worship.
Age-segregated worship is rooted in evolutionary humanism, not biblical
Christianity” (Doug Phillips, “The Role of Children in the Meeting of
the Church,” 2002, Family Renewal Audio Library).

The Bible says
nothing about this one way or the other. Segregation of the ages has
its dangers, but there certainly can be a time and place to teach
children and young people separately from the adults. This is not
contrary to any Scripture. A segregated ministry has some dangers that
we need to consider and avoid, but it’s not a heresy. As the pillar and
ground of the truth and possessing the Lord’s commission to “teach them
to observe all things whatsoever I have taught you,” the church has the
authority to teach children and young people as certainly as the home
has (1 Timothy 3:16; Matthew 28:19); and the church has the right to
decide how to accomplish this in a practical sense. I believe there is a
great benefit in having Bible classes for children and youth. The Bible
nowhere says that they must always be with their parents. That is to
make a law out of the Bible’s silence.

Sunday School is neither a
pillar of the faith nor a heresy. It is simply a tool. The Sunday
School movement began in England as a way of evangelizing children from
poor families and did not meet in the church or even during normal
church times. It was held in various places in the community on Sunday
afternoons. The typical Sunday School today is part evangelistic and
part discipleship. Each church must determine how it will fulfill
Christ’s command to preach the gospel to every creature and disciple
those who believe, and the Sunday School can be a helpful tool if it is
conducted properly. Having or not having a Sunday School doesn’t
determine whether a church is biblical.

If mom and dad want to
keep their children with them at all times in church, and if they don’t
want their children to participate in youth activities, that is their
prerogative before the Lord, but to go beyond this and make such things a
law for everyone is to go beyond Scripture.

Another example of
the legalism of the Integrated Church movement is its teaching that
daughters must remain under the father’s roof until marriage. The
following is a review of a Vision Forum book and DVD by a fundamentalist
home schooling mother that investigated their materials:“The
two items I have reviewed are the book ‘So Much More,’ a book to
daughters about how to have ‘vision’ for the kingdom of God. And the DVD
‘The Return of the Daughters,’ a documentary on the whole idea of
daughters staying under their father’s roof until marriage. On the
surface these items seemed to be very God-honoring. Yet, I had an
unsettled feeling that something just wasn’t quite right. On the DVD, it
seemed very touching to want to ‘protect’ your daughters in the way
they suggest. What Christian father wouldn’t want to do the best for his
daughter? Being a home school father, my husband wanted to have an open
heart to what the Lord may be leading him to in the future. We spent
all these years training her to be a keeper at home and as she becomes
an adult, we do not want to just ‘throw her to the wolves.’ This is
exactly what the DVD suggests you are doing if you don’t keep your
daughter at home until marriage. … The book had much material that
seemed on the surface to be great. It mentioned modest dress, Christian
femininity, etc. Yet, it warned daughters against an independent spirit
and self-sufficiency to the point of calling working for anyone other
than your dad, selfish and Marxist. It also mentioned if daughters did
not have families that agreed with this vision, they should find a
family that would adopt them into their families so they could fulfill
this role. The whole idea was the family should not be split up at
church and if you wanted to be a visionary daughter you better find a
family in one of their Integrated churches so you could be a part. It
was such nonsense as I have led ‘bus kids’ to Christ in junior church
and have wondered how they would have fit in at church without any
families to adopt them. There were so many other glaring flaws, often
times they used Scripture quotes that were intended to be commands for
our relationship to Christ, and they twisted it to be for our
relationship to earthly fathers.”
To
teach that young women cannot leave their father’s roof unless they are
married is going far beyond Scripture and putting man-made yokes on
God’s people. Though we agree that we are not to follow the dictates and
ways of today’s feministic-influenced society (Psalm 1:1; Rom. 12:3)
and children are to obey their parents in the Lord (Ephesians 6:1), this
does not mean that we have to submit to man-made laws that go beyond
this. The Bible is our sole authority for faith and practice.

Is
a young woman to be treated as a child? For a young woman to go to a
godly Bible College and even to become a single missionary within the
ministry restrictions of the New Testament Scripture (e.g., 1 Timothy
2:12) is not unscriptural. My wife was saved as a teenager when she was
living in home broken by divorce. Her father and step father were
unbelievers so she had no earthly father to help her spirituality. She
faithfully attended the best church in her area, and after she graduated
from high school she attended a godly Bible College, worked in a
church, and was called to be a missionary. Before we were married, she
worked as a nurse at a missionary hospital, and I do not believe that
she was disobeying the Bible. A single woman can operate under the
authority of the church as surely as she can under the authority of a
father. Consider Phebe (Romans 16:1-2). She was sent by Paul on a
ministry journey to Rome and Paul instructed the church at Rome to
assist her, yet no father or husband is mentioned.

To instruct
young women to leave their own fathers and put themselves under another
father, because her own father is not following the Integrated Church
model, is actually rebellion to God’s Word. Where does the Bible teach
this? The Bible says, “Children obey your parents in the Lord for this
is right” (Eph. 6:1). It doesn’t say, “Daughters obey your father in the
Lord unless he refuses to follow the Integrated Church philosophy.”

Beware of Integrated Church legalism.5. The Integrated Church will bring you into association with heresy.
As
I have been examining the Integrated Church Movement, I have found many
heresies that make this a dangerous movement. These are in addition to
the errors that we have mentioned under the previous four points.There is the heresy that salvation is by endurance.

Consider the following statement at a Family Integrated Church web site:“While
the dedication and discipline and athletic prowess is commendable, I
fear that it may be at the expense of the child’s salvation. I know that
on earth it isn’t fancy, it isn’t glorious, millions of people won’t be
shouting your or your child’s name, but I want to encourage you, as a
father, to daily drill the Christian fundamentals with your children.
There are no medals or crowns or tiaras or sashes. But this is an
endurance race and if we remain steadfast until the end, we will receive
the crown of salvation that will last for eternity” (Richard Boureston,
“Will Your Child Throw a 100mph Fastball in Hell?” Walk of Faith
Church, Orange County’s Family Integrated Church,
http://ourwalkoffaith.com/articles/orange-county-church/will-your-child-throw-a-100mph-fastball-in-hell.html).

That is works salvation, and it is a heresy of the first order.There is the heresy of dominionism.

Vision
Forum is devoted to dominion theology, and Vision Forum has a vast
influence throughout the Integrated Church movement. They to impart a
“family vision for cultural reformation.”

One of their DVD presentations is entitled “Training Dominion-Oriented Daughters.”

Vision Forum’s movie God’s Next Army
presents the goal of training young people to enter the halls of
government and become national leaders for kingdom reconstructionism.

Vision
Forum is associated with Patrick Henry College, an institute of higher
learning for home schoolers that is devoted to a theocratic agenda of
“the transformation of American society” through preparing “Christian
men and women who will lead our nation and shape our culture.”

Patrick
Henry College, which has associations with Vision Forum, was founded by
Michael P. Farris, who is also the head of the Home School Legal
Defense Fund (HSLDA) and the founder of Joshua Generation Ministries.
The latter is devoted to training young people 11-19 to “become a force
in the civic and political arenas” to banish pluralism from America, a
dominionist, kingdom-now agenda.

Gary Demar’s American Vision
organization is another reconstructionist outfit that has influence
among home schoolers and integrationist churches. American Vision’s
objective is to “restore America to its Biblical Foundation–from
Genesis to Revelation.” The vision is of “an America that recognizes the
sovereignty of God over all of life and where Christians are engaged in
every facet of society.”

This fails to recognize that America
was never built solidly upon the Bible. It was always built on a mixture
of Bible and humanistic philosophy. Some of the founding fathers were
Bible-believing Christians, while some were not. In fact, some of the
chief of America’s founders were unbelieving rationalists who despised
doctrines such supernatural revelation and Christ’s atonement. These
included Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. There is no pattern in
the New Testament for a “Christian nation.” There is a pattern for the
church and the home and for civil government but not for a Christian
nation. The kingdom of God will only work in this world at a level
beyond the churches when God Himself comes to sit on the throne. There
is no kingdom without a king!

In his book Ruler of the Nations, Demar describes the dominionist philosophy as follows:“All
government requires a reference point. If God is to be pleased by men,
the Bible must become the foundation of all their governments, including
civil government. This means that Biblical law must be made the
foundation of all righteous judgment in every government: personal (self
government), ecclesiastical, familial, and civil.”
When
we look to the book of Acts and the New Testament Epistles we look in
vain for a dominionist agenda. The apostles and preachers in the early
churches didn’t have an objective of “bringing the Roman Empire back to
God” or establishing the kingdom of God within the Roman Empire. Rather,
they fulfilled the Commission given by Christ to preach the gospel to
the ends of the earth (Acts 1:8). They preached the gospel, discipled
the brethren, established churches, lived holy lives as light in a dark
world, considered themselves pilgrims in a strange land, citizens of a
heavenly country, and waited on the imminent return of Christ (1 Thess.
1:9-10). There is the heresy of Calvinistic sovereign election.

Vision Forum is founded upon and permeated with Reformed Calvinistic theology. The statement of faith includes the following:

“All
who were chosen in Christ from eternity past are born again by the Holy
Spirit, respond from their new hearts with repentance and faith in
Jesus, are justified on the basis of the shed blood of Christ, become
children of God, and are indwelt, sanctified, and sealed by the Holy
Spirit until they are glorified at Christ’s return.”

Vision Forum books include the following: John
Calvin: Man of the Millennium, The Story of the English Puritans, The
World’s Greatest Reformation History Library, The Geneva Bible Calvin
Legacy Edition, Children’s Stories of the Reformation, Stories of the
Covenanters in Scotland, Reformation Heroes, Famous Women of the
Reformed Church, Puritan Fathers Classics Library, Gill’s Body of
Doctrinal Divinity (hyper, hyper Calvinism). They even sell a statue of John Calvin. There is the heresy of Replacement Theology and the misuse of the Law of Moses.

This
heresy replaces Israel with the Church. It is for this reason that the
Family Integrated Church movement brings so many things from the Old
Testament directly into New Testament church, which is a gross error.
The Apostle Paul taught that the Law of Moses is not the Christian’s law
(2 Corinthians 3:6-18). In 2 Corinthians 3:6, the “letter that killeth”
is the Law of Moses. (This verse is frequently taken out of context by
New Evangelicals and ecumenists and liberals to support the heresy that
the Bible should not be interpreted literally or that it should not be
obeyed in all points.) Those who hold to Replacement Theology teach that
the “moral code” of the Law of Moses is enforce in the Church, but Paul
was specifically talking about the “moral code” in 2 Corinthians 3. He
was talking about the Law that “was written and engraven in stones”
(verse 7). That is the Ten Commandments! Yet he calls this Law “the
ministration of death” (verse 7) and “the ministration of condemnation”
(verse 9). This is because the Law of Moses requires perfect obedience
in ALL points (Deuteronomy 27:26; Galatians 3:10; James 2:10), and
sinful, fallen man cannot live up to it. Thus, the purpose of the Law of
Moses was to show us God’s holy character and righteous demands and
man’s fallen condition in order to lead men to safety in Christ (Romans
3:19-24; Galatians 3:24). Once a man places his faith in Christ, he is
no longer under the Law of Moses (Galatians 3:25; Romans 7:1-4). Paul
said the Law of Moses, specifically the Ten Commandments written and
engraven in stones, is done away for the believer (2 Cor. 3:11). The New
Testament believer has a different, an even higher law, and that is the
“law of the Spirit” (Romans 8:2). The believer’s law is to be conformed
to the image of Christ by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit (2
Corinthians 3:18). The Christian’s law is also called “the law of
liberty” (Jam. 1:25), because while the instruction of the New Testament
faith is a requirement that God places before His people, it is a law
of liberty because we obey God out of gratitude for His grace in Christ,
and we do not have to fear eternal condemnation.There is the heresy of denying the imminency of the return of Christ.

The
Integrated Church movement largely denies an imminent Rapture, but the
doctrine of the pre-tribulational Rapture is both Scriptural and
important. (See “The Pre-Tribulation Rapture” at the Way of Life web
site.) It is not a peripheral doctrine. Christ, Paul, James, and Peter
taught that the Lord’s return is imminent and is to be expected at any
time (Mat. 24:44; Phil. 4:5; Jam. 5:8-9; 1 Pet. 4:7). The early
Christians lived in expectation of Christ’s return and the literal
fulfillment of the prophecies. “For they themselves shew of us what
manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from
idols to serve the living and true God; And to wait for his Son from
heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us
from the wrath to come” (1 Thessalonians 1:9-10). The doctrine of a
pre-tribulational Rapture is a great motivator for purifying one’s
personal Christian life. It encourages the believer in trials and
persecutions (1 Thessalonians 4:17-18). It keeps the church’s focus on
the Great Commission. D.L. Moody had it right when he said: “I look upon
this world as a wrecked vessel. God has given me a lifeboat and said to
me, ‘Moody, save all you can.’” The pre-tribulational Rapture motivates
us to be busy in the Lord’s work (1 Cor. 15:58). It motivates us to
live obedient lives (1 Jn. 3:1-3; 1 Th. 5:4-7). It motivates us to
separate from evil (Tit. 2:13-14). It keeps believers on the outlook for
heresy and apostasy (2 Timothy 4:3-4; 1 John 2:24-28). There is the heresy of modern textual criticism.

The
writings, videos, and web sites promoting the Integrated Church are
filled with quotations from the modern versions, including the English
Revised Version and the New International Version. There is a complete
capitulation to the heresy of modern textual criticism and the
smorgasbord approach to the Bible version issue. (See the following
articles at the Way of Life Literature web site: “Textual Criticism Is
Drawn from the Wells of Infidelity,” “Modern Textual Criticism’s Role in
the Breakdown of Society,” and “The Ungodly Fruit of Modern Textual
Criticism.” For a more extensive study, see the books “Modern Textual
Criticism’s Hall of Shame” and “Faith vs. the Modern Bible Versions,”
which are available in print and eBooks editions at the Way of Life web
site.)CONCLUSION
The
Integrated Church movement has some good points, but the good is
wrapped in a theological package that contains many dangers for
Bible-believing Christians.

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CHIP INGRAM’S ALLIANCES INCLUDE APOSTATES BILLY & FRANKLIN GRAHAM, NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE PSYCHOLOGISTS, EMERGENTS & CONTEMPLATIVES

July 5, 2013 John

THE GOD DESPISING MIXTURE OF THERAPEUTIC PSYCHOLOGY, ECUMENISM, UNIVERSALISM, NEW AGE AFTERLIFE HERESY, SPRINKLED WITH CHRISTIANESE:

Recently we documented the evidence for

the Grahams’ apostasy at:

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/03/billy-franklin-graham-popular-but.html.

This old video proves Billy Graham’s universalism in an interview with Robert Schuller. It clearly exemplifies Graham’s public apostasy which spans decades. Nevertheless, Ingram sees no problem holding hands in joint ministry endeavors with Billy and Franklin Graham.

Now we will show that the “winsome” Chip Ingram of the “Silicon Valley”, California, has maintained associations with compromised Christians, such as the Grahams, (e.g. at the Cove, http://www.thecove.org/), despite their Catholic connections, universalism, “wider mercy salvation”, treating Mormonism as mainstream Christianity, awards to “word of faith” heretics, youth rock concerts, and ecumenism. Add to that Ingram’s drinking deeply of the cesspool of the world of pagan psychology focusing on NDE, or “near death experiences” as proof (among 6 extra-biblical, unbiblical proofs) of the existence of an afterlife besides the Bible. Add again, his unbiblical, mythical, faulty and heretical demonology which populates this world and the next. Add again the association with Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, John Ortberg and other emerging heretics.

Perhaps Ingram, in his rush to be “all things to all people” got sidetracked and his ego inflated by the “performance metrics” (rising income, to name one) of his ministries’ successes in the last few years, which has mistakenly convinced him that he must be doing something right with his sycophant undiscerning followers/donors. The business metrics may look encouraging, but what about the metrics of “real evidences of salvations/sanctifications/spiritual growth”? Ingram claims that pastors and church leaders can’t seem to define these, allegedly providing such definition, but he never offers a biblical definition, other than marketing his use of worldly business models and systems to fill a “need” that he’s convinced you of by nothing more than slick salesmanship.

We previously commented on the integration of secular, worldly business practices into churches at:

https://ratherexposethem.org/2013/05/global-leadership-summit-2013.html, in which we said:

“It needs to be said that churches should not be run like businesses. When churches are run like corporations, pastors, elders and deacons lose whatever humility they once had and become manipulative dictatorial leaders and/or task masters, and discard their roles as shepherds, ministers, caring advisers, and equal members of the body of Christ, under the authority of God. Frequently, and in their sinful arrogance and independent spirit, the result is a complete failure to teach from the Bible, disciple believers, and warn and/or correct the congregation in a loving way about apostates, heretics, false teachers, false prophets, and the twisting of Scripture. Instead, they themselves become the focus of worship, the primary and final arbiters of truth, doctrine, and practice on their own authority. Members are ridiculed for wanting to hear Bible based expository preaching on the pretense that it just makes people fat and lazy, unwilling to work for the common good of the church. Adopting a business-like structure in church creates a hierarchy of authority, a “chain of command”, leads to abuse, contributes to gnosticism, fosters elitism, belittles the congregation as a working class, values performance over grace, diverts from the God-given guidance of Scripture and focuses on implementing the vision cast by leaders, requires the congregation to subject themselves to unbiblical self-appointed change agents, drives the congregation away from the true gospel of grace towards a social gospel of works, creates a socialist, collectivist, community organizational structure that denies or suppresses individualism, individual thought, and individual effort. Compliance and compliant church members fit into this unbiblical business community, and consequently, individualistic personalities are routinely discarded and booted out if they “don’t get with the program”.

Let’s begin and lay out the evidence, which, by the way, is very much hidden deep in a mountain of glowing, positive accolades from many sources and carefully crafted public persona imagery, couched in an aura of professionalism. This is all man-centeredness to the maximum, with a baptism in self-centeredness for his followers.

What we are dealing with here is much more sinister than simply a common integrationist methodology of mixing the Word of God with psychology producing psychoheresy. No, Ingram is careful to frequently give a disclaimer that what he offers is not just psychology alone. No, he claims his solutions are biblical and often quotes from the Bible. Nevertheless, the habits, addictions, symptoms, conditions and dysfunctional behaviorisms that he addresses are described as such, in psychological terms, never as sins and/or sinful, where the patient/counselee is the victim of past hurts and wounds. The latter approach of being personally responsible for sins would alienate much of his audience who would have to take the blame themselves for their state of mind and soul.

What Ingram offers is just another age-old form of gnosticism, with man’s wisdom pre-eminent, for a price. It’s what you don’t get in this package tied so neatly with a fancy ribbon, namely the Holy Spirit’s role and work in the believer!

Chip Ingram is the president of Walk Thru the Bible, having replaced its founder Bruce Wilkinson, the latter being the author of the heretical/mystical book, “The Prayer of Jabez”. Ingram is the author of “The Invisible War”, a book about demons, reviewed by Gary Gilley here: http://www.svchapel.org/resources/book-reviews/4-christian-living/178-the-invisible-war-by-chip-ingram.

Ingram was the senior pastor of Santa Cruz Bible Church, http://santacruzbible.org/, a large non-denominational church located in Santa Cruz, California, where he and Dan Kimball served on staff together for over twelve years (see page 265 of Dan Kimball’s book, “The Emerging Church”). Kimball is at Vintage Faith Church now:

http://www.vintagechurch.org/about/leadership/dank, also in Santa Cruz, and has a blog http://dankimball.com/.

See also the following Apprising posts on Kimball, who associated with Ingram for twelve years in ministry:

http://apprising.org/2010/11/20/dan-kimball-on-the-record/.

http://apprising.org/2010/11/12/apprising-ministries-on-dan-kimball/.

http://apprising.org/2010/11/19/emerging-church-leader-dan-kimball-on-discernment-ministries/.

http://apprising.org/2011/12/07/dan-kimball-of-the-emerging-church-to-speak-for-rick-warren/.

http://apprising.org/2010/11/20/dan-kimball-on-the-record/.

http://apprising.org/2011/01/01/dan-kimball-of-the-emerging-church-and-lectio-divina/.

http://apprising.org/2008/08/25/is-emergent-church-pastor-dan-kimball-really-a-conservative-evangelical/.

http://apprising.org/2010/02/19/curious-associations-ed-stetzer-dan-kimball-and-tim-keller-missionshift/.

http://apprising.org/2008/07/15/dan-kimball-an-effete-christianity-is-nothing-to-be-gay-about/.

http://apprising.org/2007/04/14/dan-kimball-and-the-emergent-church-seeking-hard-to-make-homosexual-sin-not-sin/.

http://apprising.org/2007/08/09/emergent-church-does-dan-kimball-preach-a-perverted-gospel/.

http://apprising.org/2008/01/11/dan-kimball-reformed/.

http://apprising.org/2007/08/06/dan-kimball-they-like-jesus-but-not-the-church/.

Lighthouse Trails has articles about Kimball’s promotion of contemplative mystical practices:

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/dankimball.htm.

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/stevemuseemerging.pdf. (Review of Kimball’s book by Steve Muse).

http://www.hadleyrobinson.com/Doc/Leaders/DanKimball/DanKimball.htm.

Ingram is one of six contributors to Kimball’s book, including Howard Hendricks (Center for Christian Leadership), Brian McLaren (founding pastor of Cedar Ridge Community Church, and emergent heretic), Sally Morgenthaler (president of Sacramentis.com), Mark Oestreicher (president and publisher of Youth Specialties, www.youthspecialties.com), and Rick Warren (senior pastor and Purpose Driven Pope of Saddleback Church www.saddleback.com).

Ingram comments on page 223 of Kimball’s book cited above: “Dan’s thoughts on discipleship are not limited in their application to the emerging church. The (ancient) disciplines are needed everywhere and can form a rich arena for followers of Jesus from all generations.” This is a direct comment on Kimball’s chapter 19, “Spiritual Formation: Becoming a Vintage Christian”, sub-paragraph titled “Restoring the ancient disciplines (Catholic contemplative mystical practices) to create vintage Christians”.

Ingram is currently senior pastor at Venture Christian Church http://www.venturechristian.org/about/pastors/, with links of course to his other websites, among which is “Living on the Edge” http://livingontheedge.org/, which introduces the follower to a law based methodology mixed with psychology, as in http://livingontheedge.org/series/gods-boundaries-for-abundant-living/daily-radio. Ingram’s “core values” are the “R12 and BIO” programs:

http://livingontheedge.org/about-us/core-values, indoctrinations into legalism, works and a type of “purpose driven” service similar to Rick Warren’s “Purpose Driven Life”, where the gullible are led to believe that bible study, learning and wisdom should take a back seat to “kingdom building”. “BIO” is a step further into a regimen of “spiritual disciplines” (also known as “spiritual formation”); for example this excerpt:

“BIO is a simple framework of spiritual disciplines that, when practiced regularly, builds healthy, sustainable spiritual growth for life. A BIO believer is committed to living out their faith daily before God, in community and on mission.”

Contrast this with what the Bible has to say about justification and sanctification. There is nothing that can be added to, or should be added to, the completed work of Jesus Christ:

Romans 3:20-” Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

Romans 3:24-“being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus”

Romans 3:28-“Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.”

Romans 4:2-“For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.”

1 Corinthians 6:11-“But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God”

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWBqxgjH0BM. (Ingrams Early Life)

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCBmfKW82ZA. (Self Admitted Billy Graham Influence)

See: http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=61413184690. (The Grahams & Company)

See:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7PWze9faq8. (Pastors Need to Be Brutally Honest/Quotes Peter Drucker, Rick Warren’s mentor)

Liberty University talk:

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KDIf3YIYvw (Life After Death)
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIm2uRBYc2o. (Belief in God of the Bible)

Ingram’s “R12-True Spirituality” offered in conjunction with “12 Conference” with Saddleback Church of Rick Warren. Other speakers were John Ortberg, Catholic contemplative mysticism proponent, and Bill Hybels of Willow Creek Association,
(see: http://www.svchapel.org/resources/book-reviews/4-christian-living/716-the-life-youve-always-wanted-spiritual-disciplines-for-ordinary-people-by-john-ortberg-grand-rapids-zondervan–2002-269-pp-hard-1899-, and http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ortberg.html, and http://www.alittleleaven.com/2010/07/john-ortberg-and-dallas-willard-teach-a-false-gospel.html, and
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/johnortberg.htm).

Donations reach $570,000:

Downline Ministries Discipleship Training:
http://downlineministries.com/.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CIngUd68rM.

Nouthetic Counselors Talk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDIYy4hchFk.

Founder of the gnostic “Prime Movers” for the very best, intelligent, successful Christians only:
http://primemoversonline.com/our-process/our-content/.
http://primemoversonline.com/who-we-are/leadership/.

Life After Death Heretical Theology:
http://livingontheedge.org/why-i-believe-02-in-life-after-death.pdf.

Dr. Kenneth Ring, NDE “near death experience” psychologist and one of Ingram’s sources for proofs of the Afterlife:

http://kenring.org/.
http://kenring.org/about.html.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Ring.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080126043348/http://www.near-death.com/experiences/experts04.html.
http://iands.org/about-iands/history.html.
http://iands.org/about-iands/history/the-founding-of-iands-raymond-moody.html.

Kenneth Ring, psychologist on the left and Michael Sabom, cardiologist on the right, with two other original founders of “International Association of Near Death Studies, http://iands.org:

Faulty, heretical and unbiblical demonology of Ingram described by Gary Gilley here:
http://www.svchapel.org/resources/book-reviews/4-christian-living/178-the-invisible-war-by-chip-ingram.

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CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD?-TEL AVIV ISRAEL TWENTIETH GAY PRIDE PARADE-THE MODERN REPLAY OF THE GOLDEN CALF ORGY

June 15, 2013 John

YouTube video of Tel Aviv Gay Pride Parade 2013:

And from the Times of Israel, their own glorification of sin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FYpQfQ38g.

There were reports of 100,000 people in attendance at the 20th gay pride parade/festival in Tel Aviv, Israel.
Obama sent his well wishes to them all. Christians would do well to re-think their fascination with the Hebraic Roots/Messianic movement being spread by Jewish missionary organizations within the U.S. and around the world. How can a country which gives support to the gay agenda have any moral authority in the Christian world or anyplace else?
US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro conveyed warm wishes from President Barack Obama, Secretary of State John Kerry and the American people. Mayor Ron Huldai on the left, ambassador Shapiro on the right:

Mayor Huldai surrounded by gays in adoration:

See story and photo slideshow in The Times of Israel article: http://www.timesofisrael.com/tel-aviv-gears-up-for-annual-gay-pride-festival/.

Incumbent Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai and openly gay MK Nitzan Horowitz courted the LGBT community at Friday’s Gay Pride events.

See: Haaretz News report: http://www.haaretz.com/culture/arts-leisure/rainbow-report-pride-and-politics-in-tel-aviv-s-mayoral-race.premium-1.528107.

Tel Aviv Gay Tourism: Israeli city tries to sell itself to

same-sex couples and gay tourists:

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RON CANTOR: “WHEN GENTILES FORGET JEWISH ROOTS, JEWS START DYING”

April 29, 2013 John

A Messianic/Hebraic ministry called “Messiah’s Mandate” headed by Ron Cantor www.messiahsmandate.org, is purporting to claim that the identity of Jesus was robbed of His Jewishness in his book “Identity Theft”, and therefore should be called Yeshua by Christians and Jews. Likewise, Cantor claims that all the apostles, Mary, Peter, Paul etc. were renamed by transliteration from Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek.
In “Eight Reasons Gentiles Should Care About the Jewish Roots”, http://messiahsmandate.org/category/jewish-roots/, Cantor attempts to place a load of guilt on Christians by alleging that when such roots are not continuously remembered and honored, certain unfortunate consequences result almost by default: accusations of Jewish deicide (killing of God), holocausts (i.e. death of Jews), replacement theology (Church replaces Israel), Jews ignorant of their own Messiah, Christians being “cut off” for mistreating Jews (misuse of Romans 11:17-23). Other spurious claims are that Jesus will come back as a Jew to Jerusalem, and “no Israel equals no salvation”.
This is just one more Messianic ministry attempting to convince Christians they are and have been neglecting their Jewish roots, and that they ought to reform their thinking, beliefs and worship to be more Jewish, and to help Israel accept Jesus as Messiah.

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LAST SUPPER ENDS ALL PASSOVERS, BEGINS NEW COVENANT

March 30, 2013 John

Christians Should Not Be Celebrating Seder
John MacArthur describes how the Last Supper was the Last Passover (Seder).
In his words: “But the Passover Jesus was concluding with the disciples in Matthew 26 was the last divinely sanctioned Passover ever to be observed. No Passover celebrated after that has been authorized or recognized by God. Significant as it was under the Old Covenant, it became a remnant of a bygone economy, an extinct dispensation, an expired covenant. Its observance since that time has been no more than a religious relic that serves no divinely acknowledged purpose and has no divinely blessed significance. To celebrate the Passover is to celebrate the shadow after the reality has already come. Celebrating deliverance from Egypt is a weak substitute for celebrating deliverance from sin.” Full unedited text below: http://www.gty.org/blog/B130328.

While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.” (Matthew26:26-28)

Passover was the oldest of Jewish festivals, older even than the covenant with Moses at Sinai. It was established before the priesthood, the Tabernacle, or the law. It was ordained by God while Israel was still enslaved in Egypt, and by the time of Christ it had been celebrated by God’s people for some fifteen hundred years.

But the Passover Jesus was concluding with the disciples in Matthew 26 was the last divinely sanctioned Passover ever to be observed. No Passover celebrated after that has been authorized or recognized by God. Significant as it was under the Old Covenant, it became a remnant of a bygone economy, an extinct dispensation, an expired covenant. Its observance since that time has been no more than a religious relic that serves no divinely acknowledged purpose and has no divinely blessed significance. To celebrate the Passover is to celebrate the shadow after the reality has already come. Celebrating deliverance from Egypt is a weak substitute for celebrating deliverance from sin.

In fact, Christ ended the Passover and instituted a new memorial to Himself. It would not look back to a lamb in Egypt as the symbol of God’s redeeming love and power, but to the very Lamb of God, who, by the sacrificial shedding of His own blood, purchased the salvation of all who believe. In that one meal Jesus both terminated the old and inaugurated the new.

Breaking the unleavened bread was a normal part of the traditional Passover ceremony. But Jesus now gave it an entirely new meaning, saying, “This is My body” (Matthew 26:26). The original unleavened bread symbolized total detachment from the old life in Egypt, carrying nothing of its pagan and oppressive “leaven” into the Promised Land. It represented a separation from worldliness and sin and the beginning of a new life of holiness and godliness.

By His divine authority, Jesus transformed that symbolism into another. Henceforth the bread would represent Christ’s own body, sacrificed for the salvation of men. Luke reports that Jesus added, “Do this in remembrance of Me” (Luke 22:19), indicating He was instituting a memorial of His sacrificial death for His followers to observe.

In saying the bread is His body, Jesus obviously was not speaking literally. A similarly foolish misunderstanding already caused the Pharisees to ridicule Him and many superficial disciples to desert Him (John 6:48-66). It is the same misunderstanding reflected in the Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation. That literalistic notion is an absurd misinterpretation of Scripture. Jesus’ statement about eating His body was no more literal than His saying He is the Vine and His followers are the branches (John 15:5), or than John the Baptist’s calling Him the Lamb of God (John 1:29).

As the disciples drank of the cup, Jesus said, “This is My blood of the covenant” (Matthew 26:28). Luke’s gospel indicates that the Lord specified “new covenant” (Luke 22:20), clearly distinguishing it from all previous covenants, including the Mosaic.

When God made covenants with Noah and Abraham, they were ratified with blood (Genesis 8:20; 15:9-10). When the covenant at Sinai was ratified, “Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said, ‘Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words’” (Exodus 24:8). When God brought reconciliation with Himself, the price was always blood, because “without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness” (Hebrews 9:22; cf. 1 Peter 1:2). A sacrificial animal not only had to be killed but its blood had to be shed. “The life of all flesh is its blood” (Leviticus 17:14), and for a life truly to be sacrificed, its blood had to be shed.

Jesus therefore did not simply have to die but had to shed His own precious blood (1 Peter 1:19). Although He did not bleed to death, Jesus bled both before He died and as He died—from the wounds of the crown of thorns, from the lacerations of the scourging, and from the nail holes in His hands and feet. After He was dead, a great volume of His blood poured out from the spear thrust in His side.

There was nothing in the chemistry of Christ’s blood that saves. And although the shedding of His blood was required, it symbolized His atoning death, the giving of His unblemished, pure, and wholly righteous life for the corrupt, depraved, and wholly sinful lives of unregenerate men. That blood made atonement for the sins of all who place their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.

As noted above, the divinely ordained Passover remembrance ended when Jesus celebrated it that night with His disciples. Any observance of it since that time has been based solely on human tradition, the perpetuation of an outward form that has long since lost its spiritual significance. But for those who belong to Jesus Christ, that event in the upper room began a new remembrance of redemption that the Lord will honor until He returns in glory.

As you prepare to celebrate the Lord’s death and resurrection this week, take some time to consider God’s faithful deliverance of His people. If you’ve been redeemed, remember that your salvation was possible only through the sacrifice of Christ on your behalf (Ephesians 2:8-9). And if you have yet to bend your knee in repentance and faith, know that it is only through the shed blood of Christ that you can be set free from the captivity of your sin (2:1-7).

(Adapted from Matthew 24-28: The MacArthur New Testament Commentary.)

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MAX LUCADO INVITES MESSIANIC RABBI TO EXPLAIN “HEBREW MEANING” OF CHRISTIAN COMMUNION

March 22, 2013 John

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RABBI JONATHAN CAHN, AUTHOR OF “THE HARBINGER”, ADDRESSES INAUGURAL PRAYER BREAKFAST FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, JANUARY 21, 2013

March 17, 2013 John

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INTERFAITH SEDER NEWBURYPORT, MASSACHUSETTS

March 16, 2013 John

The ecumenical spirit of the one world church already at work in liberal socialist New England:

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PASSOVER SEDER VIMEO VIDEOS

March 15, 2013 John

In order of length (longest to shortest) we are listing some informative videos from Vimeo on the Passover Seder. Some are strictly Jewish, some are Messianic Jewish, some are Messianic influenced Christian churches. You can decide if the ritual meal of Seder is something that Christians need to adopt.

Calvary Chapel Seder 2012: http://vimeo.com/40202527.
Trinity Pacific Christian School: http://vimeo.com/22780882.
Cornerstone Church: http://vimeo.com/39616992.
Dean Bible Ministries: http://vimeo.com/36663392.
Berryessa Community Church: http://vimeo.com/43414984.
Messianic Jewish Family Passover Seder: http://vimeo.com/21319999.
Messianic Jewish Bible Institute Seder: http://vimeo.com/38788365.
Manischewitz Matzo bread factory: http://vimeo.com/10006094.

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JONATHAN CAHN, AUTHOR OF “THE HARBINGER” PERFORMS PASSOVER SEDER MEAL & DRAWS JEWISH/CHRISTIAN PARALLELS

March 15, 2013 John

See Vimeo video at http://vimeo.com/40970997.

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JUSTIN KRON TEACHING HEBRAIC ROOTS & SEDER AT BILL HYBELS’ WILLOW CREEK COMMUNITY CHURCH AUDIENCE OF 12,000

March 14, 2013 John

In April 2011 Justin Kron, teacher of Jewish roots, taught about the Passover Seder and its connections to the life and ministry of Jesus at the Good Friday services of Bill Hybels’ Willow Creek Community Church, which attracted more than 12,000 people. You may view the one hour video here at Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/32347987. If this is not a craze gone viral, then what is?

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MESSIANIC PASSOVER SEDER ASSUAGES “CHRISTIAN GUILT” OVER HOLOCAUST AND PROVES YOU’RE NOT ANTI-SEMITIC

March 14, 2013 John

The following video shows the complexity in the rules and order of a Jewish Seder meal. Must Christians adopt Judaism and Jewish practices to prove they support Israel and are not anti-Semitic? Should we feel guilty about our own Christian heritage for not maintaining Jewish rituals and feasts? Should we atone for the holocaust by bowing to revisionist church history in some false sense of shame for the direction of historical Christianity? Are there Jewish observances that were meant to be continued after the ascension of Jesus Christ and Pentecost? Should we read the New Testament with “Jewish eyes” in order to read between the lines? Decide for yourself, but please do re-read the Scriptures. Please note that near the end of the Seder the Jews still hope for the Messiah or at least Elijah walking through the front door! Why then are Messianics still celebrating Seder if the Messiah has already come?

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UPDATE: ANSWER TO A CHRISTIAN WHO WENT TO A SEDER MEAL AND WAS “INFORMED ABOUT THE ELEMENTS”

March 13, 2013 John

Below are the texts of an e-mail chain, from and in response to, a Christian relative who went to a Seder meal at an Evangelical Free Church recently.

Please note that we recognize that these are typical “Christian” responses these days in which much of the church world gets its information from the apostate “Christian” cable TV networks which promotes positive confession, wealth and prosperity gospels, god in us, self healing, and charismatic, pentecostal beliefs. It is a mindset of willing ignorance disguised as faith, and liberal, socialist, and ecumenical “must get along with everyone” compromises disguised as grace. We have decided not to answer this person any further. We have a certain focus to this blog and we do not intend to deviate from that, which is described in the blog header and the welcome post of December 10, 2012 when this blog started. We do not attempt to restrict our posts to “positives only”, nor do we offer a feminized, cheery, fantastical, pop-psychological, pastel wonderland type of blog. In fact, having noticed so many “Christian” blogs out there with those characteristics, it made us even more convinced for the need of, and more determined to present, a hard hitting, no excuses, unapologetic, no compromises blog. See: http://ratherexposethem.blogspot.com/search/label/Welcome. We fully expect that a certain number of visitors will find our revelations offensive, but we make no apologies for the effects. Our goal is to provide a necessary service to the Christian world in providing information that is for the most part being purposely hidden from Christians because it is deemed inappropriate in a church setting and counterproductive to the financial and ministry goals of churches which are carefully controlled and manipulated within growth methodologies. Also, we have disabled comments right from the start because we do not have the time or energy to answer, refute, and/or argue with visitors. We do our own private evangelization as the Lord leads by divine appointment. “Approachable levels of interaction”, “approachable discussions” and/or “focusing on the positives” are typically fostered privately with people of like mind who are biblically sound and not errant. We do not compromise our beliefs or adhere to the “in essentials unity” philosophy so prevalent in the churches, so that we can just “get along” with everyone. We faithfully expose, reprove, rebuke and contend for the faith (and the true gospel) once delivered to the saints as Christ commanded. The negatives of modern Christianity exist prior to our research and postings. We do not create them. We only expose them; not to do so would only add to and give more cover to the growing apostasy out there. This is a battle for the minds of men and women in the spiritual realm, and we expect the attacks to be constant, coming from the world, Satan and the apostate churches. We will continue to be “hard core researchers” with the help of God and for as long as He desires and permits. To be otherwise would be treasonous and complicit with apostasy.

First the email (in part) from the relative after seeing our blog post titled:
“Hebraic Craze Going Viral”:
“Great article! You can rest at ease as our church did this as a way to learn about the Jewish traditions and the elements….nothing viral or crazed. No yearly ceremony or replacing the Communion. Simply informational.”
This is our response:

We have to date 17 posts filed under the Hebraic/Messianic category on our blog. Besides that we are following 45 websites that have Messianic outreaches to Christian churches which are seeking to convince Christians that they are Jewish like Jesus once they are saved and likewise brought under the Jewish covenant. Not so! Theologically, they are seeking (among other types of heretics) to blur the lines between Christians and Jews leading to the apostate one world church headed by the antichrist. Even if your church has not gone crazed or viral with this, there are many others who have, and see nothing wrong with this, as our research proves. Yes, it may only be done once a year, but many churches have been doing it for years, with more all the time. So it is viral because it is spreading throughout the church world, now more than ever.

We are sorry to disagree but you are wrong when you say this is just informational. You are being deceived. It is just one more initiation and introduction into ecumenical thinking, and its purpose is to draw Christians further yet away from thinking biblically and doctrinally and towards powerless ritual similar to the Catholic church. See: 2Tim3:5. Your reference to the term “elements” of the Seder is also a very Catholic term, used to describe the transubstantiated bread and wine which a priest allegedly turns mystically into the body and blood of Christ. By freely using this term indicates you have been instructed to think in terms of the sacredness of religious objects which is non-Christian.

The New Testament is a New Covenant not of laws, ordinances, rituals, holy days, dietary laws, and/or observances of religious custom, because they only give the appearance and suggestion of holiness on the outside, but fail to affect the heart and soul of mankind, like a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. We have been freed from all that stuff. There is no need to be informed, educated, indoctrinated or even persuaded that you as a Christian are missing something that you should have known about all along. There is nothing that can or should be added to, removed, or changed about Scripture. To suggest otherwise is pure gnosticism, which purports to reveal secrets, mysteries, and knowledge heretofore undiscovered. A good current example of this heresy is Jonathan Cahn’s “The Harbinger” book which is a top seller, but filled with heresies and distortions of Scripture. He is a Messianic Jew from a congregation in Wayne, NJ.

For your information, Messianic Jews claim to have “accepted Jesus”, but will not address Him as Jesus, but as Yeshua. They also, generally speaking, do not accept Him as divine, but only as the Messiah man. They believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit just like Pentecostals. Messianic congregations give up nothing Jewish, and “accept Jesus” in name only, not as Savior. It is the Christian who associates with Messianics who gives up much.

Please reconsider what you have taken part in.

March 13, 2013 retort to our email above: (selected applicable parts).

  “But what I cannot do is sort through the vast amount of info you present. It’s beyond comprehension. I feel as if you enjoy researching the life out of something and leaving people in the dust rather than engaging in a mutual and approachable level of interaction.
  It is not my occupation to know all these many other false teachings except to know they exist and I am to not partake of them.
  You have such a high level of defense on this and other matters of the church. Good motive but overboard a bit. Can you step down for a few minutes and answer some simple questions for me? Research has its place, but God wants us to SHOW and DO so others are DRAWN TO Christ, not away from Him. I can appreciate your deep research to a point, then you lose me. Is there anything that you agree with ? Can you simply share the love of Christ and come to an approachable discussion?
I get bogged down with the deep, detailed alarm you spread.
  I would love to see in you a gentle, loving and simple side, leaving the hard core researcher out. What a transformation that would be. I want to see and know you as Christ-like in demeanor and focusing on the positives of the Christian walk. Where is your Jesus? There is a place and time for sounding the alarms, but all the time? Yikes! I would love to have a simple discussion about your answered prayer, how the Lord has touched you this week, or what did He teach you about? We are called to encourage each other and uplift each other in our walk.”

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HEBRAIC CRAZE GOING VIRAL: SHOULD THE LAST SUPPER BE CELEBRATED AS A PASSOVER SEDER MEAL?

March 13, 2013 John

JEW OR GENTILE? LAST SEDER OR LAST SUPPER? COULD THEY POSSIBLY BE THE SAME? IF SO, THE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRONG AND THE OLD TESTAMENT IS REALLY THE HEBREW BIBLE! THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE OF DESTROYING THE WORD OF GOD AND REDEFINING JESUS CHRIST AND HIS GOSPEL BY ECUMENICAL APOSTATES.
We know that the celebration of Jewish Passover Seder meals is as old as the blood on the doorpost and the angel of death passing by. But in recent years some churches have picked up on the ritual and have been having Seder meals for celebrating Good Friday or Lent.
The Huffington Post ran an article about “ersatz” Passover Seders, which they describe rightfully as “bait and switch” proselytizing events: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-i-pinsky/messianic-passover-seders-jews-for-jesus_b_1398334.html.
In this recent article at Religion and Politics, http://religionandpolitics.org/2013/03/12/evangelical-ketubah-messianic-mezuzah-judaica-for-christians/, we see that some Unitarian Universalist congregations, liberal apostate Protestant churches, some Catholics and an occasional “evangelical” have been celebrating a form of Seder since the 1960s to foster their ecumenical “common ground” pursuits.
Now it seems that more than a few Evangelical Free Churches, identified as a “smorgasbord of heresies” denomination, (see: http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/efca.htm), have jumped on the bandwagon to satisfy the urges of their biblically bored followers who continuously seek after greater sensual experiences in their contemporized forms of worship, even if they have to go outside of Christianity. Although not an outright or visible compromise of the Christian faith or return to Catholicism, they seek to at least blend Judaism with Christianity, Messianic style, but hidden within the smoke and mirrors “sacramentalism” of Jewish rituals and observances. The effect is to deflect marginal or nominal Christians further away from true biblical Christianity as found in the Bible’s both Testaments.
This is an example of a complete Passover “Potluck” Seder meal at an Evangelical Free Church for Good Friday, with its contents, foods, layout and preparations at this link: http://www.moorparkevfree.com/templates/System/details.asp?id=28304&PG=Events&CID=1006863&rDate=2010-04-02:

PASSOVER POTLUCK INSTRUCTIONS AND RECIPES

During Passover, it’s inappropriate to use any leavening – that means no regular flour or bread of any kind. We eat unleavened bread (matzah) only. The newspaper food section and the Internet are good sources for Passover dish menus (use Google to search for Passover recipes).

What to bring:

The church will supply the ceremonial elements, bowls, plates, cups, eating utensils, and grape juice. The dinner will be potluck style (see below) – please bring a generous amount as it will be shared with church members and guests. We will need the following food items:

(1) Main dish:

You have a choice of lamb, turkey, chicken, or perhaps a tzimmes (meat cooked in sweet broth with carrots and sweet potatoes or fruit). Remember, no bread or flour should be used. At Passover we use unleavened bread only. (Sorry, no pasta!) Roasted chicken from Costco is simple and delicious—but cut it up before you arrive, please! All food items should be brought ready to serve.

(2) Soup:

Traditional matzah ball soup is easy to make; you can use a packaged mix from the Passover display in the supermarket.

(3) Charoset

This is a mixture of apples, nuts, and cinnamon, sweetened with a little honey and grape juice. There are many different recipes for charoset, but here is an easy one that would be enough for about 4 people (exact measurements are not critical.) Make a generous amount.

· Peel and 2-3 core apples. Slice and cut into very tiny pieces (tiny blocks).

· Finely chop the walnuts and add to apples. Stir in some cinnamon, honey, and wine, and mix thoroughly.

· Refrigerate until serving. This is always a treat so make a lot.

(4) Salads, vegetables, and other side dishes (remember, no leavening!)

(5) Dessert

You can buy Passover desserts at your local supermarket. Typical desserts would be a sponge cake, macaroons, cake mixes or brownies, all made without yeast or flour.

Notes:

Bring something to keep the food warm if possible, as we do not actually eat dinner until halfway through the Seder service.

Bring serving pieces (spoons, ladles, etc.) as the churches will not be supplying these. Label all your items so you can find them easily at the end of the evening.

Directions for Preparing for the Seder

The following information will explain what needs to be done to prepare for your Passover Seder.

General set up – A head table for the leaders of the Seder, the pastor(s) and their families. Both Michael and Norma will need a microphone and should be seated where all those in attendance can see them (but on the same level as the rest of the seats.) A lectern or music stand for the leader’s notes is also needed. We also need multimedia projection and sound for the PowerPoint slides and DVD film clips we use during the Seder. Microphones and amplification for the worship teamare also needed.

Having the tables rather close together will add to the fun and the feeling of being family. Kids are not only welcome, they are encouraged to come and participate, as Passover is a unique family experience!

What needs to be provided for the Seder:

The church should supply the ceremonial elements for each table. You should decide who will bring what, and tell people well in advance (please refer to the Passover recipes file.) What is needed:

§ Plates and utensils for eating and serving (disposable is OK). Need one dinner plate, and two dessert plates per person.

§ Bowls for soup

§ Napkins

§ White tablecloths, a vase with flowers for the tables

§ Plastic cups – one for juice, one for water (2 per person)

§ 2 candlesticks and candles, matches for each table

§ Grape juice (each person will drink 4 cups of juice during the Seder, so make sure there is enough to go around. 12-16 oz. of juice per person is probably a good estimate).

§ Water – bottled or in a pitcher, to drink during the meal.

§ Matzah for each person. Figure at least one whole piece of matzah per person.

§ One or two bowls per table with charoset (apple mixture) – very tasty and popular, so plan to have enough for everyone to have at least a ½ cup serving.

§ One or two small bowls per table with enough horseradish for one small spoonful per person (the hotter the better J).

§ A bowl with salt water for each table.

§ A bowl with sprigs of parsley – everyone will need one sprig.

§ One Haggadah booklet for every person

Shopping hints: You can buy jars of white horseradish in the deli section of any supermarket. Right before Passover you can get really good deals on 5-10 lbs. of matzah at the markets if you watch the ads and clip coupons. “Yehuda” brand is our personal favorite because it’s nice and crisp. You can’t beat Costco’s roasted chickens for convenience. There are special Passover displays in the markets with dessert mixes that use no flour and are surprisingly good.

There isn’t really an “order of service” as you generally think of it in a church service. The entire Seder is the service, and when we send you the complete Haggadah handouts for everyone this will become clear. Here’s how it will go:

Greeting and introductions by host pastor
1 or 2 worship songs (lyrics on PowerPoint)
Lighting of the holiday candles
The seder plate and table elements explained
The first cup of wine (cup of sanctification)
Cleansing of hands (done by leader only, to save time)
Eating the greens
Breaking the matzah, hiding the Afikomen (kids asked to leave the room while it’s hidden)
Recitation of the service (the Passover story from Exodus 11-12). Includes DVD film clips.
The second cup of wine (cup of praise)
All sing “Dayenu”
Eating the matzah
Tasting the bitter herbs
A reminder of the Temple
The Passover meal and dessert (buffet style)
Kids search for and find the Afikomen
Eating the Afikomen
The third cup of wine (cup of redemption)
Song: Eliyahu ha Navi (Elijah the Prophet)
The fourth cup of wine (cup of benediction)
Final worship song(s)
Dismissal and clean-up

Other examples of Evangelical Free Church Seders:

http://annandalefree.com/sederpassover-dinner-event/.

https://ratherexposethem.org/2012/04/christ-our-passover-were-looking.html.

http://www.adathatikvah.org/passover-2013-information/.

http://waysidechapel.org/703258.ihtml.

http://www.spartaefc.org/view.asp?ID=60.

Messianic Ministries bringing Seder meals to Christian churches (itineraries):

http://www.lightofmessiah.org/upcoming_events/itinerary.php, and http://lightofmessiah.org/presentation_programs/jesu_in_passover/index.php. (full instructions for churches)

http://jeffreydmiller.com/Schedule.html.

http://messianicminutes.com/schedules.html.

Here is a YouTube video of a Messianic Seder meal table layout:

Another church Seder:

Lutheran Church Seder:

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DOUG PAGITT OF SOLOMON’S PORCH HOSTS “INTERFAITH STUDIES” WITH RABBI JOSEPH EDELHEIT

February 18, 2013 John

Since about January 2011, the emergent Doug Pagitt of Solomon’s Porch and the “Yoga Sanctuary” in Minneapolis, Minnesota has been in dialogue and conversation, (as emergents are known for), with Messianic Jews and non-Messianic Jews, such as rabbi Joseph Edelheit, and as shown in a previous post of ours of the 2006 YouTube video about “Synagogue 3000” at:

This was first reported by Apprising.org here: http://apprising.org/2011/02/03/doug-pagitt-excited-about-interfaith-powwows-at-solomons-porch/.
We are adding the applicable YouTube videos of Pagitt, Edelheit from Pagitt Radio on the “Progressive Radio” station (Love 105) in Minneapolis, for the world’s edification and information to show the willingness of “Christian” and Jewish emergents to mesh their commonalities, if any, and if possible. The desire for these is “engagement” in an ecumenical sense to counter religious extremism in its varied forms, making “religion work through religious leaders who bring ‘vision’ to the text of Scripture”, and “finding a new way of being religious”, without giving up true Christianity and true Judaism as they interpret them, as heard here:

Edelheit’s problem with Christmas submerging Hanukkah in an “assumed” Christian culture:

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MESSIANIC PASTOR DENIES BASIC TENETS OF CHRISTIANITY AT NRB-NATIONAL RELIGIOUS BROADCASTERS CONVENTION

February 17, 2013 John

We have been maintaining that Jews still hold to their Judaism even if they “accept” Yeshua in the Messianic congregations, in that they deny the divinity and humanity of Jesus, deny the Trinity, claim that the Messiah must be a man, and Jesus Christ’s identification with the Father as one, problematic.
Here is the proof:
Reference is made to the 2011 article at http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tourism-ministry-promotes, wherein this statement is reported to have been made by Samuel Smadja, Israeli Messianic pastor to former state senator Henry Eugene “Hank” Erwin, Jr. of Alabama: (bold is ours):

“So, it was no surprise to see former Republican State Senator Henry Eugene “Hank” Erwin, Jr. of Alabama standing in front of the NRB Israeli exhibit and interviewing Israeli messianic pastor Samuel Smadja, who explained in great detail the obstacles involved in bringing Jews to Jesus.
Excerpt: (As a reputed quote from Smadja):
“The second obstacle is the deity of the messiah. The concept of the trinity or the concept of a messiah who is fully god and fully man is not a known concept for the Jewish people. They believe in a man as the messiah…That’s why Paul, every time he writes to the Jewish people, puts an emphasis on the deity of the messiah. And we all agree that christ was not crucified because of his healing or his teaching. He was crucified only because he said, “me and my father are one” and that was the obstacle for the Jewish people, and that’s still the obstacle until today”.

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PJTN-PROCLAIMING JUSTICE TO THE NATIONS

February 16, 2013 John

It is certainly proper for Christians to support Israel and the Jewish people, to identify with them, and to be actively against the “New Semitism”, as has been historically the norm in America for the most part, where the proof of such is borne out by survivors of the Holocaust who settled here for the freedoms they lost in Europe and the Middle East. Granted, there may now be liberal elements in the Christian world in America who side with Palestinians and the creation of a Palestinian state inside Israel as their own view on what might be called “justice”, despite the Palestinians’ history of terrorism.
However, it is not true among most conservative Christians that they subscribe to a type of anti-Semitic and racist “replacement theology”, whereby the Church is seen as totally replacing Israel’s inheritance and promises. Rather, among most conservative Christians, the Church and Israel are seen as two distinct, co-existing entities, with their own unique heritage and understanding of the Scriptures, but not as adversaries. Most conservative Christians nevertheless, understandably and correctly view Israel as for the most part still rejecting Jesus Christ as Savior and as one of the three persons of the Trinity, with Israel and most Jews still hostile to Christians. That is, except for the Messianics who are still in the early stages of a kind of “ecumenical” fusion of Christianity and Judaism, which is offensive to both conservative Christians and conservative Jews, who see elements of heresy, mysticism, legalism, and universalism not as positive progress.
The “New Semitism” should not in any way place an urgent mandate or requirement on Christians to renounce Christian beliefs, and/or adopt Judaism or Messianic/Hebraic Judaism, just because Jesus was a Jew, or that the apostles were Jews, or that our Christian faith appears to be based on Judaism in whole or in part. So, there should be some caution when considering the following ministry which purports to support Israel on the face of it, but which is actively seeking the religious, political, and spiritual involvement of Christians and Christian churches. Discernment should be exercised with this and any other ministry which has ecumenical endeavors, associations with dominionist, New Apostolic Reformation individuals and ministries, and Kingdom Now adherents of the Word of Faith movement, which would by nature of their philosophies and theologies, diminish and suppress the true gospel of Jesus Christ and the Word of God in the Bible for the sake of their self-described urgent and righteous causes.
It is also disappointing that a ministry like this makes no mention of Christian persecution around the world, killing of Christians in Arab/Muslim countries, confiscation and destruction of Christian owned property in these same countries, the fining and jailing of Christian homeschooling parents in Europe, and their children being turned over to the German Jugendamt for brainwashing.
It is our opinion that notwithstanding the plight of Jews and Israel, the plight of persecuted Christians should also be “proclaimed to the nations”.

UPDATE: Independently of PJTN, Ms. Moore has been appointed to the United Nations as special envoy to Middle Eastern affairs, as reported in the Nashville Scene, http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2011/10/27/laurie-cardoza-moore-appointed-un-special-envoy. In this article from October 27, 2011, it describes that at the UN, she serves in her capacity as the “World Council of Independent Christian Churches (WCICC) Special Non-Governmental Representative to the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations”. In her words:
“With so many organizations dedicated to humanitarian issues and human rights, it is imperative for all Bible believing Christians to help ensure that the UN respects the Judeo/Christian values as much as those of all of its 194 members. We live at a time when a ‘new’ anti-Semitism is on the rise around the world and Christians are being massacred by radical Islamic extremists. Unfortunately, world organizations have forgotten that the UN was created in response to Hitler and Europe’s genocide against the Jewish people with the Holocaust. When my presence is seen in the UN, I hope it is immediately understood that I represent over 55 million Christians and Jews who believe in the promises God made.”
What is the WCICC? It is identified on its website http://www.wcicc.org/ as “a fellowship of churches, pastors, ministries, Christian schools and individual members in seventy-nine nations around the world. We provide a platform to independent churches that are deprived of the collective support and the privileges of mainline denominations. We encourage member churches to preserve our Christian heritage, and separation from doctrinal impurity. The WCICC provides direction to churches and members for faithful adherence to the Word of God”.
WCICC’s Doctrinal Statement is very conservatively Christian: http://www.wcicc.org/doctrine.html.
But, in addition, “As a member of the World Council of Independent Christian churches you have direct access to the ministries listed below. This group of annex ministries and related ministries of the World Council of Independent Christian Churches are here to assist you in your ministry”. Listed among these “annex ministries” is the:

International Alliance of Independent Messianic Congregations and Synagogues http://www.iamcs.org/, A Ministry of the World Council of Independent Christian Churches, which clearly states its:

“MISSION STATEMENT:
The mission of the International Alliance of Independent Messianic Congregations and Synagogues is to renew the World Council of Independent Christian Churches commitment to the Jewish people and the Nation Israel. The World Council of Independent Christian Churches is committed to covenant partnership with Messianic Congregations internationally. Our mission is accomplished as we foster covenant membership with Messianic Congregations internationally whom share a Biblical understanding and belief in Yeshua the Mashiach/Jesus Christ.
VISION STATEMENT:
The vision of the International Alliance of Independent Messianic Congregations and Synagogues is to restore Jewish Origins of Christianity to the Protestant Evangelical Church. The World Council of Independent Christian Churches is committed to a Biblical understanding of orthodoxy and orthopraxy within the doctrinal framework of Jewish Origins. The International Alliance of Independent Messianic Congregations and Synagogues seeks to restore orthodoxy and orthopraxy within the doctrinal framework of Jewish Origins of the Christian Faith to both Messianic Congregations and Gentile Churches”.
Why should it be necessary to “restore Jewish origins” to Protestant churches? For what purpose?
If Ms. Cardoza-Moore and Dr. Lupoli of WCICC are so actively pushing for the cause of truth and the exposure of this new anti-semitism coming from Muslims and allegedly from the Christian community at large, is part of the cure to transform evangelical Protestant churches into Messianic/Hebraic congregations as the key to fighting Muslim/Palestinian extremism and terrorism? If most Christians already believe in the rights of Jews and Israel to exist, why should our churches have to be Judaized if they already identify with Israel’s and the Jewish peoples’ rights to exist?

Laurie Cardoza-Moore is the founder of PJTN and works with rabbis, Christian leaders, and Joseph Farah of World Net Daily. This is her profile as seen on the website for PJTN, http://www.pjtn.org/:

LAURIE CARDOZA MOORE

“FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT – PJTN”
“With over twenty years experience in media, Laurie has been part of over 500 film and video productions as spokeswoman, on-screen talent and producer. At PJTN, Laurie shares her expertise through radio & television interviews and in briefings with media and Church leaders. Her primary engagement tool is film production and interviews. Laurie is an accomplished advocate who has represented issues related to families, women, children, faith and country.
Based in Nashville, Tennessee, Laurie’s career faced a turning point on 9/11 when she decided to focus her media and lobbying expertise on American security and Israel.
Laurie has active ties to leaders and activists alike throughout the media, governmental and faith communities in the US and Israel.
After founding PJTN in 2005, Laurie co-produced ‘Lest We Forget’, a documentary short that was a featured selection at the Liberty Film Festival. The film focuses on the history of Islamofacism and the war that the US and Israel wage against it today.
In 2007, Laurie co-produced the music video, ‘The Forgotten People’, which screened at the 11th Annual Hollywood Film Festival. It is a cry from the grave as six million Jews remind us to never forget the horrors of the holocaust and warn of the new one on the horizon.
Based on the success of the music video, she also PJTN’s first feature-length documentary that traces the roots of anti-Semitism and rise of a “new” anti-Semitism — a coalition of the far right, the left, and radical Islam.
As host of PJTN’s Evening of Prayer & Action at the NRB (National Religious Broadcasters Convention), Laurie stewards the donations at PJTN to impact the over 6,000 Christian global media participants in attendance. Because of PJTN, more Christians know how to recognize and act against the ‘new’ anti-Semitism.”
Ms. Moore at the National Religious Broadcasters:

and also:

The Moores have produced a film “The Forgotten People” documentary, and this is the trailer:

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FROM CATHOLIC TO NEW AGE MEDIUMS AND PSYCHICS TO KENNETH HAGIN, WORD OF FAITH HERETIC TO THE MESSIANIC YESHUA

February 16, 2013 John

Here is the story and testimony of Lisa Buldo, health coach, http://lisabuldo.com/, who unfortunately has apparently not yet found the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and who is yet deceived by heretical and occultic Word of Faith and Messianic/Hebraic influences, which is a clear indication she is still under the influence of Satanic mystical “signs and wonders”, coupled with “personal extra-biblical revelations” not originating from God but instead Satan. This is not much different from the addiction she once had to New Age mediums and psychics, which her Catholicism failed to help her out of.
Let’s pray that she comes to a realization that the Bible contains all there is to know about God, and that the Holy Spirit works through the revealed Word of God in the Bible, not through charismatic/pentecostal “signs and wonders” or the likes of those affiliated with TBN, who are in fact “Christianized” soothsayers, mediums and psychics deceiving millions. Let’s also pray that she eventually becomes as outspoken about the truth of the Bible and is willing to expose everything she is currently involved in as being false and misleading. As for now, she is so deceived that she is unknowingly doing Satan’s work herself and deceiving many with her teachings which have been distorted and twisted by her associations.
Here is her testimony on YouTube, presented by Torahlife.TV, part of Torah Life Ministries http://torahlifeministries.org here:

and her testimony on Paul Crouch’s heretical “Word of Faith” TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network):

Here are the Crouchs in all their prosperity gospel glory:

The same TBN where she is the moderator of the “Joy in Our Town” program:

Lisa Buldo has a revelation about death where you “transition, but never stop breathing”, in this YouTube video entitled “You Never Really Die”:

Lisa Buldo has an indirect revelation through a friend as seen here on the YouTube video entitled “I AM-A Powerful Revelation From God” which she interpreted as “I AM lives in you, the kingdom of God lives in you”, a blasphemy, plus instructions from her about positive and negative confession, all of which is pure Word of Faith heresy. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that “I AM” lives in us; only a believer in Jesus Christ has the Holy Spirit living in him. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Kingdom of God lives in us, even if we are believers. The Kingdom of God will be established by Christ, when Christ comes again to reign and rule, and not a moment sooner, despite all the Kingdom Now theology being promoted by Word of Faith heretics, and it certainly will not be set up inside a believer.

Here in the video below, Buldo discusses “healthy eating” with the heretical Word of Faith pastrix Paula White who went to Rome with Benny Hinn, and stayed in the same hotel with him.
See Apprising–www.apprising.org for many posts about Paula White acting unbiblically as a pastrix, as here:

Here rabbi Ralph Messer wraps Paula White in a Torah scroll. Apprising.org refers to this “crowning” in http://apprising.org/2012/02/06/paula-white-less-than-truthful-regarding-rabbi-ralph-messer/.

http://apprising.org/2010/08/02/benny-hinn-and-paula-white-collusion-of-responses/.
http://apprising.org/2010/07/30/benny-hinn-and-paula-white-side-by-side/.
http://apprising.org/2010/07/24/reports-of-benny-hinn-and-paula-white-affair-pictures-included/.
http://apprising.org/2010/08/10/benny-hinn-admits-his-relationship-with-paula-white/.

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“GOD’S LEARNING CHANNEL” IS MESSIANIC/HEBRAIC

February 16, 2013 John

“God’s Learning Channel”, http://www.godslearningchannel.com/site/index.php, founded by Al and Tommie Cooper, is decidedly pro-Israel. So are most Christians and this blog. However, as Christians, we are called to separate fact from fiction, biblical truth from error and heresy, even if it risks being branded as anti-Semitic by Jews, Christians, and others just because we are not deceived and dare to speak out about such deception.
Nor is belief in “replacement theology” all that common as GLC portrays. Most Christians do believe that they, as Gentile believers in Christ as Savior, have been “grafted into” the tree (Romans 11:17-32), that some branches have been pruned out (unbelieving Jews), and that the tree of life is not Judaism or Israel, but life in Christ, the second person of the Trinity, which Messianic Jews and Jews in general have a problem with.
Likewise, the Messianic/Hebraic movement broadbrushes law, confusing Mosaic law with Rabbinic law, mystical ancient Jewish writings, and the Torah, treating the latter three as inspired and authoritative, and thus on an equal par with the Bible, and even then, only a Bible translated in a non-Greek, non-Western format, e.g., the Jewish Bible and/or the Jewish New Testament.
As followers of the real biblical (and yes, ethnically Jewish) Jesus Christ, we can and should be able to easily discern and expose that the Messianic “Yeshua”, is yet another powerless, man-crafted and false Christ, stripped of His divine (as well as human) nature and authority, relegated to a secondary status to Jewish laws, writings and customs, and who suits perfectly the type and character of an end times “earthly” (or carnal, if you will) Messiah who will be the head of a one world visible “congregation” in preparation for the anti-Christ.
It is a Christ fabricated in the back room gnostic “conversations”of mixed Jewish and “neo-evangelical” emergent minds, who in their great combined wisdom, have created an absolutely dangerous theological syncretism that never existed before, and which portends and prepares the kingdom on earth, not of, by, or for Christ despite their claims as being such, but a kingdom of, by and for the anointed, inspired few to rule over people who they view as being a lot less wise and a lot more sinful. Meanwhile, those they have deceived will be diverted from the real Jesus Christ of the Bible as inadequate to complete the burdensome task of completing your sanctification.
Such is the case with yet another ministry which is presented as being “from God” and a “channel of learning”:
http://www.godslearningchannel.com/site/aboutus.php.

Here is an unedited snippet from their website. See if you can detect and discern the errors therein:

“Many Christians today try to deny the Jewish origins or inherent “Jewishness” of the Christian faith. They fail to acknowledge that their Messiah, Jesus Himself, was Jewish and obeyed the Torah. Any doctrine that states, “The church has replaced the Jewish people as the Chosen Ones,” is called Replacement Theology. GLC stands firmly against this unbiblical and anti-Semitic doctrine. Biblically, the church is grafted into the family of Israel by Christ as heirs according to the promise (see Galatians 3:29; Ephesians 3:6). So, if we be brothers and sisters of Israel, let us stand with Her! Let us continually pray for the peace of Jerusalem!”

Our answer is Hebrews 11-The people of faith which made them righteous.
That righteousness did not save all the Jewish people from their sins by imputation. Nor did these patriarchs look to an earthly kingdom, but rather to a heavenly one, as in Hebrews 11:16-“But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.”

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GLOBAL DAY OF PRAYER IN JERUSALEM TO “TEAR DOWN THE WALLS OF SEPARATION” BETWEEN JEW AND GENTILE

February 15, 2013 John

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JACK HAYFORD’S INVOLVEMENT IN THE MESSIANIC/HEBRAIC ROOTS MOVEMENT

February 15, 2013 John

Jack Hayford is running the “King’s University” in Los Angeles, California, http://thekingsjewishvoice.org, offering Messianic Jewish studies.
In these videos of an interview with Hayford, pioneer of the mega-church movement, mention is made of his song “Majesty”, a dominionist, Kingdom-now worship song, reflective of his dominionist theology, which meshes with the “Christian Zionism” of John Hagee and the charismaticism, mysticism, and Zionism of the Messianic/Hebraic Roots movement. We also get to hear about his demonology and other beliefs which descends from Aimee Semple McPherson.

We also see the connection of Hayford to the founder of the dominionist New Apostolic Reformation, C. Peter Wagner:

Quote from the ecumenical side of Hayford on “Becoming One Studies” at: http://www.beitsimcha.com/relating/becomingOneStudies.aspx.
Dr. Jack W. Hayford President, International Foursquare Churches; Chancellor,The King”s college and Seminary” Founding Pastor, The Church On The Way :
“This Bible study is a very special one. It is the only one I know of that leads Jew and Gentile on a journey of discovery concerning the real meaning of the “One New Man.” It addresses some crucial questions. What is unity without uniformity? How can there be Christian Churches and Messianic Congregations in One Body of the Messiah? What is the Bible”s teaching on Jewish destiny and the Jewish disciple of Yeshua? Jack Jacobs and Ed Rodgers have given us enough food for thought toallow us to come to our own conclusions. Their perspective is mature and not dogmatic. I would like to see this Bible study widely used as a tool in God”s purpose for the restoration of the Church and Israel.”

J. Beard of Biblical Discernment Ministries exposes who Jack Hayford is. This is his article in its entirety. Bold letters/words are ours for emphasis. YouTube video at Vineyard church is inserted by us for evidence of the Wimber connection.

Jack Hayford
General Teachings/Activities
– Jack Hayford (born 1934) is the hyper-charismatic pastor of The Church on the Way, The First Foursquare Church of Van Nuys, California. Hayford started the church in 1969 with 18 people; it is now the largest Foursquare Church (Pentecostal) in the U.S. — about 9,000 members (of which about 80% speak in tongues as a prayer language, according to Hayford) with weekly attendance between 8,500 and 10,000. Hayford promotes the “four-square” doctrines of Pentecostalism — that Jesus is Savior, Baptizer with the Holy Spirit, Healer, and Coming King. He also teaches the false doctrine that healing is promised in the atonement (Charisma, June 1992). Pat Boone is an elder in Hayford’s church, and Trinity Broadcasting Network’s (TBN) heretical founders, Paul and Jan Crouch, are members. Hayford has authored more than two dozen books, and is also a prolific “hymn” writer, composing more than 400 popular charismatic “gospel” songs, including “Majesty” (which promotes the false charismatic “Kingdom Now” philosophy in which Christians are thought to be able to exercise kingdom authority over sickness and the devil in this present hour).

Hayford’s teaching can be heard nationwide through his “Living Way” radio and television ministries. The half-hour weekday radio program was started in 1981 (originally titled, “FreeWay”) and is now heard in over 40 states and in several foreign countries. In 1989, Living Way began a Sunday morning “live” broadcast of the church services from The Church On The Way. The now one-hour Sunday television program was started in 1977 and is seen in all 50 states on TBN (as well as in Canada and South Africa). Also on its 24 acre campus, the Church on the Way operates The King’s College, The King’s Seminary, and the Jack W. Hayford School of Pastoral Nurture.

Hayford writes in A Man’s Worship and Witness (p. 80) that since the inception of The Church on the Way 25 years ago, over 40,000 “decisions for Christ” have been made at his church, more than 30 churches have been planted elsewhere, and over 100 pastors and church leaders have gone out to serve in other places. Also, Hayford claims to have given over $20 million to “serve human needs and spread the Gospel” throughout the world.

– Foursquare was founded in 1923 by flamboyant, twice-divorced Pentecostal female preacher Aimee Semple McPherson. (In a 1990 sermon about McPherson’s ministry, Hayford defended her on the grounds that “she certainly should not be viewed as one who ‘bounced’ from marriage to marriage,” and that in his view, her ministry was validated by the fact that “a half-century later, the devil still hates her sufficiently to spray lying venom on her memory.”) In a 3/93 Charisma magazine article, Hayford says Foursquare was “one of the first to fully embrace the charismatic movement as being a legitimate movement of the Spirit.” Yet, Foursquare teaches physical healing in the atonement, “Spirit-slaying,” spiritual warfare/demon-deliverance, tongues-speaking, signs & wonders evangelism, extra-revelatory prophecy, etc., etc. In the face of mounting criticism, Hayford now admits to a more flexible attitude. In his latest book, he also refrains from demanding tongues as a proof of Spirit baptism, and instead presents “spiritual language” as a “divine and desirable provision to assist every believer …” [still error though]. (Reported in the 8/17/92, Christianity Today; the 3/15/93, Calvary Contender; and the 3/8/93, Christian News.)

– Evidence abounds of Hayford’s hyper-charismatic, ecumenical, and occultic tendencies: (Reported in the 11/1/89 and 9/15/91, Calvary Contenders; and the 12/91, CIB Bulletin.)

(a) Hayford spoke at the 1989 Billy Graham/Lausanne II conference (with John Wimber, David Yonggi Cho, and Dick Eastman), and has appeared at other ecumenical events such as Robert Schuller “success” conferences. [Hayford also endorsed Schuller’s 1996 autobiography — Prayer: My Soul’s Adventure With God.]

(b) In 10/91, Hayford visited Sydney, Australia with John Wimber (the “signs & wonders,” Church Growth, Power Evangelism, Vineyard Movement founder and leader who died in 1997) to hold a “holiness conference” (a number of Catholic priests also spoke at the conference).
Here Hayford speaks at a Vineyard church:

(c) In the 10/91 issue of Charisma magazine, Hayford relates a vision of seeing Jesus seated in heaven and then rising from the throne. Hayford states: “As the anointing caught in the folds of His garments, it began to splash out and fall over the church.” Jesus then supposedly said, “I am beginning to rise now in preparation for my second coming. Those who will rise with me will share in this double portion of anointing.”

(d) Hayford praised Richard Foster for his efforts in bringing together all the streams of the church. (Foster is the head of Renovaré, an international ecumenical organization that espouses the use of guided imagery and visualization as means of obtaining “personal spiritual renewal.”)

– Charismatic Bible Ministries (CBM) was founded in 1986 by hyper-charismatic Oral Roberts. Jack Hayford was one of the original officers and trustees of CBM. (Others included such hyper-charismatics as Richard Roberts, Kenneth Copeland, David Yonggi Cho, Charles Capps, Morris Cerullo, Paul Crouch, Kenneth Hagin, Benny Hinn, Charles and Frances Hunter, Robert Tilton, Casey Treat, John Osteen, Earl Paulk, Fred K.C. Price, Tommy Reid, Stephen Strang, and Lester Sumrall.) CBM conducts leadership conferences for its charismatic coalition, many of whom espouse dominion theology tenets. CBM’s slogan is “Love and Unity through Signs and Wonders.” When people look to signs and wonders to produce love and unity, they will find themselves united with everything that appears miraculous regardless of the source (Vengeance is Ours, pp. 125-127).

– Paul Crouch, the founder of the blasphemous Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), is a member in good standing at the Hayford-pastored Church on the Way. Crouch publishes the monthly newsletter Praise the Lord . I think it’s fair to assume that Hayford is in agreement with Crouch’s theology, or else as his pastor, Hayford would correct Crouch and discipline him if necessary. The following are quotes from the 3/93 Praise the Lord newsletter: (All emphases in the original.)

(a) “I love a good fight! … who the REAL enemy is! … the heretic hunters [e.g., Martin Bobgan] … searching endlessly for some new flaw in doctrine, picking, picking, picking some new splinter of error from the eyes …”

(b) “… the many documented miracles under Kathryn Kuhlman’s ministry and, of course, Benny Hinn’s present-day ministry. … if there is no power — no healings — no miracles in a church or ministry, the only thing left to do is to develop a new theology to justify their [the “heretic hunters”] pitiful, spiritually barren lives and ministry!” [Kuhlman was one of the first of many “stage show healers,” in effect, blazing the trail for the Benny Hinn’s and Oral Roberts of today.]

(c) “If miracles really did cease at 90 A.D. … the heretic hunters were right! If we are not ‘little Gods,’ we will apologize to you in front of ten thousand times ten thousand before the Crystal Sea!” [Hayford has taught the “little gods” heresy himself, specifically in a message first recorded in 1979 (titled “Marching Against Mammon”) and rebroadcast on a on a 10/2/86 Living Way radio program.]

(d) “A host of evil spirits … responsible for much, if not most, of the personal difficulties, spiritual pressures and aggravated forms of evil that characterize our modern social order. … this constant and fiendish disruption of the human social order is explained only by the mass activity behind the scenes of a vast, well organized host of wicked spirits under the control of their master prince. … When will YOU take back everything Satan has stolen from you by bluff, bluster, lying and deceit? … Say it with me — ‘Satan, I bind YOUR EVIL WORKS in Jesus’ name.’ Say it with me, ‘I claim my healing, in Jesus’ name; I take back what is mine, in Jesus’ name!'” [“Name-It-and-Claim-It”/demon-deliverance].

(e) “If and when we finally lay down these petty doctrinal and traditional differences and JOIN TOGETHER as an awesome UNITED body and force, all hell will finally retreat into the abyss, and, together, we will bring back the king! … When will we realize that the enforcement of Christ’s Victory is UP TO US? ” [Dominion Now theology].

(f) “Some of you have, indeed, grasped this truth and victory — Glory! Some of you have repossessed your rightful ownership and possessions. … Praise the Lord, David’s God is teaching our hands to war too! Soon our enemy will be destroyed! Soon our enemy will have to yield even his remaining strongholds. Together, we are: ‘Destroying the works of the Devil’ — just as Jesus commanded us to do.” [Charismatic spiritual warfare]

– Hayford is an endorser/participant in the National Evangelistic Census (NEC), a Kingwood, Texas charismatic/ecumenical ministry to “turn the nation back to God by winning our city to Jesus.” NEC sponsors an annual one day “census”/global neighborhood survey where teams of two go door-to-door asking questions from a form and presenting the “gospel”; an NEC brochure predicts: “The angels in heaven will be shouting when the goal of 25 million souls are reported won to Jesus in one day!” (Among other endorsers are the Evangelical Free Church of America, Youth With a Mission, Campus Crusade for Christ, and A.D. 2000 & Beyond Movement, as well as charismatic-loonies John Osteen, John Hagee, Charles and Frances Hunter, Frederick K.C. Price, Morris Cerullo, Marilyn Hickey, Dick Eastman, and Richard Roberts.)

– Campus Crusade founder Bill Bright fasted 40 days during the summer of 1994, during which he claims to have received a “prophecy from God” that a mighty revival is coming. He then issued a call for hundreds of liberals, charismatics, and new-evangelicals to gather in Orlando 12/5/94-12/7/94 to fast and pray for revival. An Invitation Committee made up of a hodgepodge of 72 liberals, new evangelicals, and charismatics was formed. Included were: Robert Schuller, Charles Colson, E.V. Hill, Jack Hayford, James Dobson, W.A. Criswell, Charles Stanley, Paul Crouch, Luis Palau, Bill Gothard, Pat Robertson, Kay Arthur, and Larry Burkett. CCC’s Bill Bright cites “a great sense of urgency to link arms and unitedly call upon God for help in the spirit of King Jehoshaphat (2 Chr. 20).” This ecumenical “linking” is in the “spirit of Jehoshaphat” indeed, but the Jehoshaphat of 2 Chr. 18 (instead of 2 Chr. 20) where he “linked” with wicked King Ahab and incurred the wrath of God. (Reported in the 11/15/94, Calvary Contender.) [Another three-day “Fasting & Prayer” conference was held in 11/95 in Los Angeles; it attracted 3,500 “evangelicals” and charismatics. The Invitation/Host Committee for this event included most of those listed above, plus Dick Eastman, Chuck Smith, Bill McCartney (Promise Keepers), Tim and Beverly LaHaye, Shirley Dobson, Paul Cedar (E-Free), Ted Engstrom (World Vision), Joseph Stowell (Moody), and Joseph Aldrich (Multnomah). A third conference was held 11/14/96-11/16/96 in St. Louis. New additions to the Host Committee included Max Lucado, Henry Blackaby, Loren Cunningham (YWAM), Greg Laurie, Dennis Rainey, Randy Phillips (Promise Keepers), Josh McDowell, D. James Kennedy, Howard Hendricks, and Neil Anderson. Conferences were also held in 1997 and 1998.]

– Eugene Peterson’s The Message has swept into Christian bookstores, homes, and churches from coast to coast. In the first four months after its mid-July, 1993 release, 100,000 copies of this “New Testament in contemporary English” were printed by NavPress and 70,000 books were sold. Apparently, most readers were delighted: “The Message is so good it leaves me breathless,” wrote popular New Age author Madeleine L’Engle in her endorsement. Jack Hayford has also endorsed The Message: “The Message is certainly destined to become a devotional classic, not to mention a powerful pastoral tool.”

But The Message teaches a different gospel and a different morality than the Bible (as well as a worldly/warm fuzzy view of life)! For example, The Message translates Jesus’ statement in John 14:28, “The Father is the goal and purpose of my life,” versus the Bible’s “… The Father is greater than I.” In l Cor. 6:18-20, the words “sexual immorality” are deleted and the words “avoids commitment and intimacy” are added. (One could conclude that now “commitment and intimacy,” not marriage, set the boundaries for acceptable sex.) In Rom. 1:26-27, the words “God gave them over …” are deleted and words that qualify homosexuality are added (a loophole is provided for committed homosexuals who “love” each other; thus lust becomes the sin, not the choosing of a same-sex partner). There are hundreds of examples like these in The Message.

Peterson himself, in his introduction to The Message, says, “This version of the New Testament in a contemporary idiom keeps the language of The Message current and fresh and understandable in the same language in which we do our shopping, talk with our friends, worry about world affairs, and teach our children their table manners …” This all sounds like an excuse for “dumbing-down” Scripture to match our culture’s downward trends. Should we then rewrite God’s holy Scriptures to fit our more shallow and worldly communications? And what does it say about a man like Jack Hayford when he endorses it as an authentic translation of the Bible rather than as Peterson’s personal, politically correct interpretation? (Also endorsing The Message were Warren Wiersbe and J.I. Packer.) [Adapted from “What Kind of Message is THE MESSAGE, an article by Berit Kjos.]

– In the Foursquare World Advance magazine of Jan-Feb ’94, when asked why he was among a group of evangelical Christian “leaders” who met with President Clinton on 10/18/93 at a private breakfast in the White House (since Clinton is pro-abortion and pro-homosexual), Hayford said he respects the office of the presidency and “Finally, I believe in the power of presence. Just my being there would leave a deposit of some sort.” He also said he has “deep love” for Clinton as “a human being,” and views Clinton as “a personable, devoted public servant.” Indeed! And it’s what Clinton is devoted to that should be denounced by all real Christians. [Among the other attendees with Hayford were social radical and pantheist Tony Campolo, church growth movement guru and psychologizer Bill Hybels (who stayed overnight at the White House and helped Clinton set the agenda), and the psychologized president of Taylor University Jay Kesler.] (Reported in the 4/94, Lofton Letter .) [Later, in a congregational report, Hayford expressed his conviction regarding the “clarity of President Clinton’s commitment to Jesus Christ,” and said he was convinced that Clinton was indeed a believer! (6/20/94, Christian News).]

– Hayford spoke for Renovaré at its 1991 Los Angeles Conference — Renovaré is an international, New Age, ecumenical organization that emanates from the religious traditions of Quakerism, whose message is that today’s Church is missing out on some wonderful spiritual experiences that can only be found by studying and practicing the “meditative” and “contemplative” lifestyle “of early Christianity.” In actuality, Renovaré espouses the use of the early pagan traditions of guided imagery and visualization, astral projection, “Zen” prayer techniques for meditation (i.e., Buddhism), and Jungian psychology (i.e., a blend of Eastern mysticism and Roman Catholic mystical spiritual tradition, which nicely fits the New Age model), all as means of obtaining “personal spiritual renewal” in the lives of believers. (For a more detailed analysis of Renovaré and the teachings of its co-directors, psychologist Richard Foster and William Vaswig, see Media Spotlight’s Special Report of March, 1992: “Renovaré: Taking Leave of One’s Senses.”)

– Promise Keepers is the gigantic new (1991) “men’s movement” among professing evangelical Christians. Its roots are Catholic and charismatic to the core. PK’s contradictory stand on homosexuality; its promotion of secular psychology; its unscriptural feminizing of men; its depiction of Jesus as a “phallic messiah” tempted to perform homosexual acts; and its ecumenical and unbiblical teachings should dissuade any true Christian from participating. Promise Keepers is proving to be one of the most ungodly and misleading movements in the annals of Christian history. Nevertheless, Hayford is a promoter of this ecumenical, charismatic, psychologized men’s movement. Hayford is on PK’s board of directors and has spoken at major events for Promise Keepers every year since PK’s inception. (He also patterns the men’s program at The Church On The Way after the PK model.) On 5/14/94, Hayford spoke at a regional Promise Keepers conference in Anaheim, California. During his message, Hayford gave three reasons why God required circumcision in the Old Testament:

“[1] God wants to touch your very identity as a man; [2] He wants to reach out and touch your secret and private parts. This enables Him to better perform surgery on the heart; [3] God wants to touch man’s creative parts. This represents the idea that since God has touched our creative parts, we as God’s people need to be creative in our witnessing to others.”

Hayford also spoke at the PK “1996 National Clergy Conference” (2/13/96-2/15/96) in Atlanta’s Georgia Dome stadium. The theme for the conference was “Fan the Flame,” because McCartney (PK’s founder) believes “God wants to bring revival to His church through its clergy” (2/26/96, Christian News, p. 10). The purpose of this gathering, according to McCartney, was to “tear the hearts of pastors wide open so that a single leadership can be produced.” He had hoped to “bring as many as 100,000 ministers and priests of all races together” (7/1/95, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, p. C8). [Actual attendance was 38,914, which represented all 50 states and more than a dozen foreign countries; 600 in attendance were Roman Catholic priests!] At the beginning of the conference, Hayford was speaking and trying to influence everyone to “dance in the Lord,” an unscriptural routine favored by the fanatical wing of Pentecostal charismaticism. Hayford said he learned the dance in Africa, and later the Lord spoke to him directly saying, “May I have this dance?” He then began doing an African folkdance around the podium, suggestive of the dances associated with heathen witch-doctoring.

– Hayford’s psychological teachings are less chronicled than his charismatic doctrines, but they nevertheless are prominent. Hayford is a frequent guest on Dr. James Dobson’s Focus on the Family radio program, and he endorses many of the newly published books by “Christian” psychologists as they come to market.

– In the Church on the Way’s Mission Statement, Hayford espouses the following about tongues-speaking and spiritual warfare (from the Living Way Ministries Internet web site — 8/6/96):

(a) “Vitality of the Spiritual Language –– The biblical exercise of Holy Spirit enabled supernatural utterance is vital for prayer, praise, intercession, and edification and is a desirable and an available resource for every believer.” (Emphasis added.) [Hayford offers to sell the book The Beauty of Spiritual Language, and a 2-tape cassette album titled “The Holy Spirit: The Great Psychiatrist”!]

(b) “Committed to Spiritual Warfare — The reality of the invisible realm of spiritual conflict demands biblical confrontation through prayer and ministry with discernment and love; that the triumph of Calvary is not minimized, but applied by such means.” (Emphasis added.) [Hayford offers to sell the book Prayer is Invading the Impossible, and a 2-tape cassette album titled “Resisting the Devil.”]

– In endorsing ecumenical evangelist Luis Palau’s 1991 book Say Yes!, Hayford says: “There are many practical reasons for supporting the ministry of Luis Palau: his fidelity to the truth, his constancy of passion for the lost, and his integrity in personal life … the evidence of God’s sovereign choice to anoint and use this man mightily at this crucial juncture in church history.” (Palau is a Catholic sympathizer whose ecumenical message is heavily diluted with pop psychology and Arminian easy-believism — hardly God’s “sovereign choice.”) [Hayford has also taken part with Palau in the annual ecumenical/charismatic/ Catholic-accommodating March For Jesus campaigns.]

– Hayford has endorsed Catholic-sympathizer Chuck Colson’s book, The Body: Being Light in Darkness (which is also endorsed by Jerry Falwell, J.I. Packer, Pat Robertson, Bill Hybels, Carl Henry, and Cardinal O’Connor). Colson, ever ecumenical, praises the Catholic chain of command, and includes the Catholic Church as a part of the body of Christ. He also says, “the body of Christ, in all its diversity, is created with Baptist feet, charismatic hands, and Catholic ears — Fall with their eyes on Jesus.” In blindly praising the Roman Catholic church Colson says it, “to its great credit, does call heretics to account.” Indeed she does, having burned more than a million at the stake! (4/93, Berean Call).

Hayford also writes: “Redeeming worship centers on the Lord’s Table. Whether your tradition celebrates it as Communion, Eucharist, the Mass, or the Lord’s Supper, we are all called to this centerpiece of Christian worship” (Seven Promises of a Promise Keeper, p. 19). Historically, the Roman Catholic mass has been recognized by Bible believers as blatant blasphemy, Yet, today, Hayford teaches that this false view of Christian worship is approved by God and proper for all Christians to accept.

– Almost all of the major apostate religious organizations (including a large Roman Catholic contingent) had representatives/participants at Orlando ’95 (North American [charismatic] Congress on the Holy Spirit and World Evangelization.) A Catholic bishop led one session. There was also conga-style aisle-dancing by the Haitian Catholics during the evening worship sessions. Others “praised God” by dancing around the convention center waving open umbrellas, signifying that the invisible rain of the Holy Spirit was falling. Of the 8,000 attending, over half were charismatic Catholics. The 10/95 Charisma said, “Charismatics abandoned their theological differences … at least for four days. … Today millions of Catholics, including Pope John Paul II’s personal preacher … have joined ranks with charismatics.” A Catholic priest added, “This is the greatest ecumenical movement in the Christian church.” Some of the hyper-charismatic teachers at Orlando ’95 were Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Jack Hayford, Marilyn Hickey, and Paul Crouch.

– Hayford also has a strange idea of what constitutes true worship of God (although not strange by charismatic standards):

“Let Holy Spirit-filled worship be a blend of our highest thoughts and our deepest feelings so that the goal of true worship be reached: the reshaping of our lives.” (Emphases added.)

Wrong! The goal of worship is not the reshaping of our lives. True worship focuses on God, the object of worship, as worthy of all glory and honor and power and obedience for Who He is, regardless of what we are. If we were perfect in every way we would still be unworthy of Him. It is not worship, but Scripture which is useful for reshaping our lives (2 Tim. 3:16-17). For Hayford and others of the charismatic ilk, Scripture is fast giving way to experience as the standard upon which to base belief. Nowhere in Scripture are we told that the goal of worship is the reshaping of our lives. That is just self-centeredness. [Source: Comments/Essays in The Answer To Happiness, Health, and Fulfillment in Life: The Holy Bible (with Selected Writings by Leading Inspirational Authors.] [Comments excerpted/adapted from Media Spotlight, Vol. 14 (1993), No. 1.]

– Rave is a dance movement from Europe in which teens take designer drugs, use virtual-reality devices, and dance (usually alone) away the night and early mornings hours to repetitive techno-pop dance music. Often there is no lighting except for strobes and lasers. “Christian” rave parties have been adopted by several youth ministries worldwide (including Chuck Smith’s Calvary Chapel movement). In April of 1997, Hayford’s Church on the Way sponsored its second rave concert.

Biblical Discernment Ministries – Revised 2/99

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SYNAGOGUE 3000 PRESENTS THE EMERGING CONVERSATION FOR POSTMODERNITY

February 15, 2013 John

EMERGENT: “A Cross-Confessional Network of Dynamic Christian Leaders” now has a “conversation”, centered on “lofty matters” such as “orthopraxy” mixed with “orthoparadox” with emergent Messianic/Hebraic Roots followers, exploring their similarities, despite the differences in language. In this video you will see the infamous gay-affirming, contemplative mystical, apostate, emerging Tony Jones in conversation, along with Doug Pagitt of Solomon’s Porch, also of equivalent reknown in postmodern “neo-evangelical” circles. Also in attendance is Tim Keel of Jacob’s Well.

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Alpha Course Building One-World Church

Kim Walker Smith “Break Every Chain” – MorningStar Ministries:

Trunk or Treat Family Night; They Took Food & Candy, Then Left Without The Gospel?

Tuten doesn’t say if the gospel was preached, tracts given out, or anyone witnessed.

FROM: http://www.libertybaptist.net/trunk-or-treat/

“Everyone is welcome to join us Saturday, October 25 at 6pm! Children and families are invited to our 1st ever “Trunk or Treat” at LBC.”

HOW “SAFE” IS THIS TO YOUR ETERNAL SOUL?

We look forward to seeing YOU there. Oh, and don’t forget to wear your costumes!”

Cross Baptist Church Membership Signing:

Covenant Membership Videos (3 parts):

Membership Covenant Video “101”:

History

Criticism and controversy

Today

A Warning About Doug Phillips,

Vision Forum, and the Integrated Church

January 14, 2014 (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)

Incumbent Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai and openly gay MK Nitzan Horowitz courted the LGBT community at Friday’s Gay Pride events.

Tel Aviv Gay Tourism: Israeli city tries to sell itself to

same-sex couples and gay tourists:

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