“SEEKER SENSITIVE, ATTRACTIONAL OR MISSIONAL CHURCH”-WHICH IS YOUR’S?

Joel Taylor of 5 Pt. Salthttp://5ptsalt.com, has an excellent article, tiltled “The Missional Church: An Attempt to Combine the Great Commission with Unbiblical Ideas” at http://5ptsalt.com/2011/02/21/the-missional-church-an-attempt-to-combine-the-great-commission-with-unbiblical-ideas/. In it Mr. Taylor refers to a 26 page pdf article of “Reformed” Tim Keller on the subject of the “missional” church titled “Contextual and Missional” at http://lcm.endisinsight.com/Publisher/File.aspx?ID=39597. Keller can be seen and heard trying to differentiate between “seeker sensitive” (a/k/a “attractional”) and “missional” churches here:

And Keller trying to differentiate between an evangelistic church and a “missional” church at:

And Keller describes how a “missional” church is not offensive or confusing to the unbeliever:

Taylor also links to an article on the website Modern Reformation by Michael Horton titled “Missional Church or New Monasticism?” at http://www.modernreformation.org/default.php?page=articledisplay&var1=ArtRead&var2=1215&var3=main&var4=Home.
    Perhaps “unbiblical ideas” is too kind an attribution for this new paradigm of “doing church”. A better characterization would include the words “worldly, carnal, apostate, compromised”. All in the name of this so-called neo-reformation/neo-Calvinism!

SUMMARY OUTLINE OF “TOXIC FAITH”

This is B. Jackson’s summary of the book “Toxic Faith” by Arterburn & Felton, located at:
http://www.philosophy-religion.org/criticism/toxicfaith.htm


Toxic Faith (a summary by B. Jackson)
1. INTRODUCTION
A. The following is a summary of the book Toxic Faith by Stephen Arterburn & Jack Felton (Oliver-Nelson, 1991)
B. I wrote this during the most trying time of my life when the issues raised by Arterburn and Felton came as a godsend to me. They apply the insights of family systems theory and religious addiction to life in the church. I helped to father a church in Indianapolis that had aspects of toxicity and these principles and truths enabled me to understand and explain much of my history in both my family of origin and the church

2. INTRODUCTORY ISSUES
A. Religious addiction
1. Def. of addiction: when a person is excessively/compulsively devoted (sacrificing family, job, economic security, relationship with God, their bodies or mental health) to a substance, relationship or behavior
2. When people suffer from not knowing they are secure and significant, things which should be learned from one’s family of origin and ultimately from a relationship with God in Christ, they have a vacuum in their soul that demands to be filled
3. The pain in our souls was intended to drive us to God who, alone, can meet the deep longings of the heart.

Instead of getting the message, we pridefully fight relying on God alone to meet our needs. We avoid listening to the pain by playing self-protective games

Along the way, we often find patterns of behavior that dull the pain, thus making it easier to live with. These pain medications can be virtually any substance, relationship or behavior that provides relief. When a person develops a pathological (abnormal) relationship to a mood-altering experience or substance that has life-damaging consequences, addiction exists

4. Addictions can be divided into three basic types: substance addiction (e.g., alcohol), emotional addiction (letting an emotion run your life e.g., depression), process addiction (e.g., work, religion)
5. Addiction is ultimately idolatry, that is, the worship of a relationship, substance or behavior instead of God
6. Religion becomes unhealthy when our attendance and service flows, not out of faith in God who has loved us in Christ and given us opportunities to serve out of that place of rest, but out of a need to be loved and find worth. Religious addiction is hard to spot because it has to do with motive. Two people could be serving side by side and one is doing it by faith in God for an eternal reward (gold, silver and precious stones; 1 Cor 3.12) while the other is doing it by faith in the behavior for a temporal reward with no eternal dividends (wood, hay and straw). Religious addicts are also usually the best workers in the church so their dysfunction is not only overlooked but rewarded. Meanwhile, their lives head for disaster.

B. 21 erroneous beliefs that can fuel toxic faith (various forms and degrees of unhealthy Christianity)1. Security and significance with God depend on my behavior
2. When tragedy strikes, true believers should have a real peace about it
3. If you had real faith, God would heal you or the one you are praying for
4. All ministers are men and women of God and can be trusted
5. Material blessings are a sign of spiritual strength
6. The more money you give to God, the more money he will give to you
7. I can work my way to heaven
8. Problems in your life result from some particular sin
9. I must not stop meetings other’s needs
10. I must always submit to authority
11. God only uses spiritual giants
12. Having true faith means waiting for God to help me and doing nothing until he does
13. If it’s not in the Bible, it isn’t relevant (all truth is in the Bible)
14. God will find me a perfect mate
15. Everything that happens to me is good
16. A strong faith will protect me from problems and pain
17. God hates sinners, is angry with me, and wants to punish me
18. Christ was merely a great teacher
19. God is too big to care about me
20. More than anything else, God wants me to be happy (free from pain)
21. You can become God

C. 7 irrational thinking patterns common in religious addiction1. Thinking in extremes: driven by an all or nothing, black or white mentality (no gray; my way or the highway) that causes the addict to be very hard on himself/herself and others
2. Drawing invalid conclusions, not based in reality; global thinking i.e., using words like “never, always.”
3. Filtering out the positive and distorting reality. These people selectively hear only the negative and are consequently negative about everything, especially themselves; in response to positive input they say, “yes, but…”
4. Filtering out the negative and distorting reality. These people selectively hear only the positive to shield their already low self worth. They allow in themselves what they would condemn in others. A lot of relational wreckage; the weight of restitution can be crushing when they finally see it
5. Thinking with the heart; feelings become the basis for reality because I think my perception is “certainly accurate.”
6. “Should, ought” thinking; constant self condemnation of not being able to measure up
7. Codependency; egocentric feeling of being responsible for everything; must be in control; eyes always on the needs of others at the expense of their own

3. TOXIC RELIGIOUS SYSTEMS
A. 11 Characteristics of a toxic faith system
1. Religious addiction is developed in a toxic faith system. The following characteristics differentiate it from systems, churches, and ministries committed to growing people in faith and developing their relationship with God
2. “Special” claims

a. The leaders of toxic faith systems claim a special pipeline to God which places them at a level above all the others in the church which creates an atmosphere of unapproachability. The leader can use this superiority to manipulate the followers who either believe and obey or suffer the consequences

b. In the toxic system, the minister will set him/herself up as having a special destiny or mission that can be performed by no one else. This special anointing or calling many times is nothing more than the pathological need to be valued or esteemed. He/she can also posture special powers from God like the ability to supernaturally heal

c. The victimized followers, seeking a closer relationship with God but focusing more on the addicted leader than on God, lose contact with God and often fall away from faith permanently. Misguided loyalty allows the delusions of the leader to grow and destroys the faith of the loyal

The only hope for everyone involved is for the leader who claims to be God’s special officer to be forced into accountability or dethroned to protect other potential victims.
3. Authoritarianism

a. Churches and ministries are started and grown through the vision of a strong leader. The authoritarian leader comes to power because a driven personality accompanies talent and charisma. A toxic system arises when that leader moves into a free rein style with no real accountability. Often, this ministry is the first experience of authority for the leader

b. Those who work in this setting find themselves either agreeing with the direction of the ministry or leaving. There is no room for compromise since the dictatorial leader believes that everyone should submit to his rule without question. Those who fear for their jobs or feel they may not be able to find similar jobs will comply with the leader rather than challenge certain decisions or actions that appear to be wrong. The leader and the people, therefore, mutually deny their accountability structures and wave the option of having safeguards in the system

4. An “Us Versus Them” Mentality

a. Religious addicts are at war with the world to protect their terrain and establish themselves as godly persons who can’t be compared to other persons. They see themselves in the cutting-edge ministry and other people need to come into the light

b. Those in the exclusive society believe they are serving God but they are serving a person, and that person’s concept of what should be and should not be

c. Any scrutiny of the ministry is seen to be an attack from the enemy

5. Punitive in Nature

a. The minister addicted to power punishes and purges the system of anybody who would upset the status quo

b. To outsiders, the whole ministry appears negative and punitive, out of balance, and distorted from the love, acceptance, and forgiveness freely given by God and his Son

6. Overwhelming Service People get burned out by the service demands of the system which feeds on compulsive personalities
7. Followers in Pain Many religious addicts in the system are physically ill, emotionally distraught, and spiritually dead because they are looking to the leader and ministry to give them what only God can give
8. Closed Communication

a. Communication is from the top down or from the inside out. Those at the top no longer hear the perceptions and needs of the people. The addicts on the inside no longer care about the needs of the people on the outside

b. Someone in the system has the job of shielding the leader from the truth by placating those who disagree and satisfying those who want a direct voice to the leader. The lieutenant is never to tell the leader anything but what he/she wants to hear

c. The organization eventually becomes ineffective because it loses touch with the people it is designed to serve, just like a father loses touch with his children

9. Legalism What you do is more important than who you are. Performance is everything.
10. No Objective Accountability

a. This is the key to a toxic faith system. If religious addicts were in healthy, accountable relationships with others, toxic faith would not be allowed to flourish

b. A person accountable only to God is a person out of control

11. Labeling

a. Labeling attempts to dehumanize persons so that dismissing them or their opinions is much easier. Rather than say that John Doe has made a negative comment, the addict proclaims that they are “traitors” or have a “critical spirit.” The labels become rallying points under which the other followers can be moved to action to squelch a revolt. Once the label is in place, it becomes more difficult to see that person as a human with real needs and the potential for good judgment

b. Because it is difficult to rally against rational, thinking people who have different views, labels must be used to polarize the opponents and energize the followers to fight against those opponents. The enemy is “shot” so the underlying issues that need to be considered can be avoided

B. The Roles of Toxic FaithIntroduction
a. A healthy system is made up of individuals with a full range of emotions, intellect, free will and the ability to function independently. In a dysfunctional system, each individual plays out a role needed for the system to function. Since individuals lack the ability to function independently, they depend on one another to play out their roles and allow the system to continue. Those roles have to be played so that those in the system can remain in their denial and avoid the overwhelming fear of insignificance
b. In a dysfunctional system, roles evolve to support the system. Each person must be willing to play the roles which become more keenly defined as the addiction intensifies. Individuals become trapped in predictable behaviors that remove God and faith, replacing them with a dependency on a set of rules. As a person’s behavior lines up with one of these predictable roles, any deviation from that role is a sign of rebellion from the system and is dealt with quickly through shaming and rejection. Although each role is difficult to maintain, it is even more difficult to leave the safety and predictability of the role and act independently. A person who takes this step back toward reality becomes an outcast of the system
c. In a toxic faith system, be it family, church or ministry, the person with the role of persecutor heads the group. The persecutor is supported by coconspirators, enablers, and victims. These people have one primary function: allow the persecutor to function, insulated from reality. Each person in each role believes the organization must continue, and it is each person’s job to distort, manipulate, hide, or deny reality so the toxic system can go on. Each person in a different way protects the persecutor from outside disruptions that could stop the achievement of the persecutor’s vision
d. These people create a false reality by distancing and isolating the persecutor from contact with the real world. As they grow more committed to the persecutor and the toxic ministry, they become addicted to the behaviors of the role and the feelings derived from participating in the false reality of the toxic system. Once they stop supporting the false reality that allows the persecutor and the ministry to continue, they are no longer needed by the system and are thrown out

The roles

a. The Persecutor The persecutor plays the role of the father in the family. In the church this person is the one with the vision that es the organization must continue, and it is each person’s job to distort, manipulate, when they were younger and, therefore, don’t want to risk rejection as an adult. Rather than trust God and risk being rejected or betrayed by God, they focus on what they do in the name of God and what they perceive are the instant rewards sent from God. In this way they lose all faith in God and rely on their own abilities to find God’s favor. The fulfillment of the mission becomes everything for the wrong reason and they surround themselves with people willing to say that the progress toward the goal is outstanding

b. The Coconspirator For every persecutor, there is at least one coconspirator who manipulates, plots, and plans to keep the persecutor in power and position. The persecutor and coconspirator work as a unit; they operate as one. Both are addicted to religion as the means by which they es person is the one with the vision that he/she and the others find meaning in fulfilling. Persecutors have often been rejected Several work together to form a team of “yes-men” that will do anything to protect and defend the persecutor. They feed into the persecutor’s ego and further blind him/her from reality. When there is conflict, they usually find a way to agree with the persecutor and support his/her position. They are loyal in every way. In a toxic faith system, these are the most dangerous followers because of their proactive commitment to keeping the system intact. Their undying faith in the persecutor is the reason so many will continue to support that person when trouble, rumor, or admission of wrong surfaces

c. The Enabler While the coconspirator actively connives to keep the persecutor in power, the enabler’s role is more passive. They allow, more than promote, victimization. They are not active in the decision-making of the organization but willingly support those decisions made at the top. They know something fishy is going on but they don’t want to rock the boat by calling attention to it. They are getting their worth serving something “significant,” therefore, they purposely don’t “see things,” thus justifying their enabling activities

The fearful enabler will wait until someone else intervenes. They hope for but are afraid to work for change. Instead, they work like beasts of burden because they feel responsible for everything

d. The Victims place their complete trust in the leaders of the toxic faith system and become silent victims of something they don’t understand. They fear rejection and abandonment so much that they would rather be exploited members of something than be on their own and be part of nothing. Theirs is a blind allegiance

e. The Outcast This is the only role in the toxic system that is not driven by addiction. In any toxic system, there is usually someone who can see the problem and confronts it. In a healthy system, individuals serving in that organization have respect for the person and position of leadership. For it to remain healthy, there must also be respect for the workers. When there is no respect, the “hired hands” are not allowed to disagree. If they don’t like something, they are labeled complainers, negative thinkers, and not team players. The toxic system has no place for anyone who challenges the integrity or disagrees with the methods of the leader. The person who is unwilling to play the games of the persecutors and coconspirators, becomes the outcast. They lose their friends and church because they stood for their convictions

C. 10 Rules of a Toxic Faith System1. The leader must be in control of every aspect at all times
2. When problems arise, find a guilty party to blame immediately
3. Don’t make mistakes
4. Never point out the reality of a situation
5. Never express your feelings unless they are positive
6. Don’t ask questions, especially if they are tough ones
7. Don’t do anything outside your role
8. Don’t trust anyone
9. Nothing is more important than giving money to the organization
10. At all costs, keep up the image of the organization or the family

D. Characteristics of Healthy Faith1. Focusing on a personal relationship with God in Christ, not religion
2. Looking to God to meet the needs for security and significance
3. Growing in faith as evidenced by walking into pain
4. Respect for the personhood of others
5. Serving others for their sake
6. Being vulnerable
7. A trusting atmosphere
8. Celebrating uniqueness by recognizing people’s spiritual gifts
9. Relationships being the heart of everything
10. People being taught to think
11. Balanced thinking rather than extremes in black and white
12. Non defensive
13. Non judgmental
14. Reality based
15. Able to embrace our emotions
16. Able to embrace our humanity as evidenced in the ability to allow for mistakes
17. The ability to laugh

4. MY RESPONSE
A. I think that each of the toxic roles is actually a counterfeit for genuine gifts and roles in the kingdom of God:
a. A person receives a vision from God to start a certain type of ministry, be it church or Sunday school. They articulate that vision and impart it to a group of people who partner with them to fulfill it, not to gain identity but as an outflow of the gifts of the Spirit exercised in faith. The difference between the persecutor and the true godly leader is motive and degree of control. The true leader obeys by faith and is secure enough to not be controlling. He/she does not lay down in front of the people and do what they say because of being afraid of them (cf. 1 Sam. 15.24), nor do they lord it over those they lead. The leader definitely leads but as a servant and an example to the flock
b. True leaders gladly submit themselves to a group of people with whom they can know and be known. They trust their council and value relationship with them above pursuit of the vision. They wait for them so they can walk together
1. The persecutor is the counterfeit for the real gift of leadership which God gives to a man or woman by the Holy Spirit
2. The coconspirator is the counterfeit for true eldership and government

a. Leaders need an accountability and decision-making structure around them. They (leader and eldership) function together as coequals with different functions based on giftedness. Those who serve the leader who is serving them do so as those who already have an identity in God and are merely walking out their response to God’s grace according to the measure of their faith. They are “elding” for the right reason

b. They are not “yes men” but neither are they of an interdependent spirit. They recognize the leadership gifting on the point person and trust in what God has put on him/her. They also trust that the leader understands how the elders complement that leadership and know that he/she will listen and heed their council. While the leader leads by giving direction and going first, they govern the church together

3. The enablers are the counterfeit for the true servant workforce in the church

a. Jesus told us to pray for laborers in the harvest, for the harvest was plentiful but the workers were few. Nehemiah saw to it that it was the people’s job to build the wall around Jerusalem, not his. He saw to it that they had whatever they needed, training, supplies, etc.

b. The true workforce of the church is serving according to their spiritual gifts by faith and not for a sense of belonging and worth. They are not passive codependents who would enable the sickness of leadership because they need the sick system for their pain medication. They know they are not gifted in government so they trust that gifting on the eldership. But they also know that if they had a question, even a hard one, that the leaders would be open to their concern and make proper adjustments when necessary. They serve God, not the leader or vision, with joy in their hearts

4. The victims are the counterfeit for the godfearer fringe

a. These are those that attend the larger meetings and are trying to decide if they want to give themselves to the local church. Many are Christians who have had bad experiences in the church and are hesitant; some are frightened “pew sitters” who need to be loved into the family and joyful service, others are non Christians who are checking out the faith

b. Whichever category, they are the fishing pond out of which disciples are made. Jesus chose 12 then 70 out of the crowd that followed him. What makes the difference whether these people become disciples or victims? Everything depends on the actions and motives of the group they are walking among. Is it healthy, glorifying Jesus and honoring personhood or is it toxic, glorifying the leader and denying personhood? Motive is everything

5. Outcasts are the courageous detractors in the toxic system who are trying to bring health to something sick
Just as God will try to heal something that is sick, Satan will try to destroy something that is healthy. In the healthy system will be found both rebels and wolves

a. Rebels are Christians who for whatever reasons have enough wounding to create problems for members in the flock because of their sin. They are good people who are just not conscious of what they are doing and why. They may be caught in a sin and need to be restored gently (Gal. 6.1). They may be acting out congregational pain that they have not been able to understand. Whatever the case, the flock is called to a process of lovingly winning these rebels through ardent pursuit outlined in Matthew 18. This passage begins by talking about true shepherds who make lost sheep their priority. It then says we are to go to our brother who is in sin and try to win him. We are to offer numerous opportunities for repentance, each with a higher relational price. If losing relationship is worth something to the rebel (this is what separates rebels from wolves), then he/she will eventually repent and have a genuine heart change. The key to this process is love. The parable of the unmerciful servant which follows in the text highlights how the atmosphere needs to be permeated with forgiveness

b. There is a difference between the rebel and the wolf. Rebels are good people with wounds who need to be loved back to health. Wolves are divisive people with hardened hearts who the enemy has planted with a strategy to destroy the fellowship. Titus says, “Warn a divisive person once, then twice, then have nothing to do with him” (3.10). Paul told the Corinthians to expel a wicked man from their midst (1 Cor. 5.13). Discerning rebels from wolves and treating them accordingly is one of the jobs of eldership (even wolves are to be treated lovingly and with respect as human beings!). The difference is in the heart and the heart must be discerned

B. Conclusion1. If Jim Jones was a 10 and totally healthy is a 0 then most families and churches would fall somewhere on the spectrum. Healthy would go from few to some toxic behaviours, unhealthy from frequent to compulsive toxic behaviours. How toxic we were is a matter of debate. There is no question that I/we had dysfunction. How much is (in my opinion) a fruitless sidetrack. Whether it is one cancer cell or a thousand, let’s call it cancer and ask God to root it out
2. This book was extremely helpful to me because it gave me crucial insight into what was happening to us. If we understand what toxic faith is and what drives it, we can recognise it and choose never to walk in it in any degree

Condensed by Bill Jackson

NAMASTE: DIVINE SPARKS ARE FLYING EVEN IN NYC

The Hindu greeting “Namaste” allegedly recognizes the “divine spark” in everyone, even on the streets of NYC, don’t you know? These divine sparks are just about everywhere, but without the recognition of a sin sick world in need of the redeemer, Jesus Christ, who alone can give us the Holy Spirit, when and if we admit we are sinners and accept Jesus as Savior. Then the Holy Spirit (the Paraclete) can be our guide into a transformed, Christ-like life. Until that happens, we walk in sin and depravity.

DIVINE SPARK IN YOGA, QUAKERISM, ZOE LIFE, EMERGENT CHURCH

    As you saw in a previous post on this blog December 16, 2012, Sue Monk Kidd is into the Divine Spark concept of the latent divine presence in ALL of mankind and creation, really panentheism. This was the video:

    Likewise, Max Lucado refers to the Divine Spark in his book “Cure for the Common Life”, reviewed at Lighthouse Trails Research here: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=9232. Take note that Lucado quotes from a number of mystics in this book, including Thomas Merton, a Catholic/Buddhist monk, which is further expanded on at Way of Life at:http://www.wayoflife.org/database/thomasmerton.html. His book promo video has him sitting in the vicinity of what appears to be a rather large liquor assortment:

    Apprising Ministries has articles on Divine Spark:
http://apprising.org/2008/09/21/the-emergent-one/
and Richard Foster, Quaker mystic on “Zoe Life”:
http://apprising.org/2012/04/18/richard-foster-says-bible-reliable-guide-despite-inconsistencies/
and http://apprising.org/2008/08/30/understanding-the-new-spirituality-god-indwells-mankind-2/
and Shane Hipps Exposed: http://apprising.org/2009/09/30/shane-hipps-exposed/
and http://apprising.org/2009/10/01/shane-hipps-exposed-ii/
    Further examples of the penetration of this concept across Christianity and into various other religions is:
CBN’s article: http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/Devotions/plemmons_divineSpark.aspx
and at Got Questions: http://gotquestions.org/divine-spark.html
    Even our own President:

    And not to leave out the Quakers (or Friends), those peace loving, non-dogmatic, ecumenical, get along with everybody and every religion folks, except those practicing genuine Christianity represented by the offensive, narrow minded Jesus who claimed he was THE WAY, THE TRUTH, and THE LIFE, who they quickly silence. Apprising.org has these articles: http://apprising.org/2008/08/25/contemplating-the-inner-light-of-the-quakers/, and http://apprising.org/2008/10/22/richard-foster-and-quaker-beliefs/ where the connection between Quakerism and the emerging crowd is shown.
    The Bible says differently, that we are in need of a Savior: Romans 3:10-“As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one”. Obviously, this crowd believes that you have no need of a Savior, that you are not depraved. This is a false gospel if there ever was one.

 

“GAME CHANGERS” HEADING YOUR CHURCH?

    Lynn and Sarah Leslies’ article “The Shepherding Movement Comes of Age” (2002-2003), http://erwm.com/ShepherdingMovement_L_S_Leslie.pdf, gives a clear picture of the abuses of the 1970s’ “shepherding movement” being resurrected in the 21st century by the fact of the more recent use of membership agreements, constitutions, bylaws, confessions, pledges, vows, oaths and assorted “spiritual commitments”, which prospective members of a church are required to sign, or current members annually affirm. The result as previously seen in the 1970s, is more bondage and binding of consciences for the typical Christian church member.
The Scriptures are clearly opposed then as now in:
James 5:12But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Matt 5:33-37-But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation. But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
    As per the Leslies: “Across the country, parishioners are now being challenged to take oaths, perform vows and sign covenants.”
    What in the world is going on?
    Do pastors learn this way of “doing” church from their seminary training? In part, yes. The other source is perhaps Rick Warren via Peter Drucker. Another would be the church growth methods of the “Leadership Network” http://www.leadnet.org/ for so-called “next generation pastors” running multi-site church “campuses” into change agents (facilitators) as described in:

    To quote the Leslies again: “Drucker has dedicated much effort into bringing the church into conformance with the “systems” model of governance, which is known as Total Quality Management in the corporate world.””In this model, parishioners are “customers.” “The focus shifts to “outcomes” which means that people will have to be held “accountable” for “performance.”” “Peter Drucker grew up under the influence of the German philosophies of the 1800s.” “The Corporate and the Church subsume their identities and comfortably merge with State into one comprehensive “system” of governance for mankind.”
    The following will demonstrate how, in the further words of the Leslies and supported by history that:

“Wherever the nationally established Christian religions have taken root they have tried to use religious oaths as a means to bind the wills and consciences of men to their own expediency and have used various methods to argue that Christ never meant what he plainly said concerning the taking of oaths.” 
    Dr. Robert Klenck, orthopedist/apologist, speaks of this “new covenant agenda” which uses the diaprax method of incremental change by mixing truth and error, in the video below (2HR/43MIN):

Two examples of the influence of Leadership Network are the following videos of two well known emergent church pastors who attribute their successes to Leadership Network:
Steven Furtick: http://leadnet.org/resources/video/steven_furtick_find_your_rocks
Mark Driscoll: http://leadnet.org/resources/video/mark_driscoll_two_sparrows_in_a_hurricane
    Followed by videos of the merger of church and state in Hitler’s Nazi (National Socialist) Germany:

Let’s not allow this to be repeated again!


EFFECTS OF SPIRITUAL ABUSE ON WOMEN

“The Effects of Spiritual Abuse on Women” by Richard Damiani at Recovering From Spiritual Abuse website is below. The effects on women are devastating and sometimes long lasting. If married, a husband may feel he is unaffected by the abuse in a cult-like church and/or he can withstand it or “live with it”, not realizing or taking into account the damages to his wife’s spirit, soul and body. Read and learn:
 http://recoveringfromspiritualabuse.wikispot.org/The_Effects_of_Spiritual_Abuse_on_Women

UNQUESTIONING LOYALTY TO PASTORAL LEADERSHIP THE MARK OF A CULT

    ABUSE IN A “RUCKMANITE” CHURCH:

    What is a “Ruckmanite” church? See Wikipedia profile of Peter Ruckman here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruckmanite
    David Cloud (IFB fundamentalist Christian) of Way of Life, http://www.wayoflife.org, authored the articles “Unquestioning Loyalty to Pastoral Leadership the Mark of a Cult” on May 8, 2008, posted here in their entirety: http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/1a7ecae20e16e48abdd701020452e064-74.html
and “What About Peter Ruckman” on December 5, 2007 at: http://www.wayoflife.org/database/ruckman.html

    A posting of a letter to David Cloud was found elsewhere from someone in a “Ruckmanite” church, followed by Cloud’s self described “balanced” answer here: http://www.rubysemporium.org/sa_abusive_pastor.html. Cloud advises the letter writer who was abused that she demonstrated an “angry spirit” and should not have forsaken the assembling ( Hebrews 10:25-Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.), at all the “stated meetings” (except for illness) of this abusive church. Doesn’t the abused have enough of a reason (e.g. the abuse itself) to be absent from meetings, plus a feeling of just anger that is “righteous”? Apparently not, if you sympathize with and identify with the KJV only IFB crowd despite their pastoral abuse.
    James White (Reformed Baptist elder) of Alpha & Omega Ministries, http://www.aomin.org, has attempted in vain to debate Peter Ruckman on his KJV-Onlyism as shown in: http://vintage.aomin.org/ResponseToRuckman.html, and http://vintage.aomin.org/ruckcor.html, the latter containing scanned copies of correspondence (letters) between White and Ruckman. 
   

   

HOBBY LOBBY CRAFT STORES DEFY OBAMACARE SUPREME COURT RULING

    As per Life News: Following a decision by Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor denying Hobby Lobby’s request for an exemption from the Obama administration’s HHS mandate, the Christian retail company said it will defy the mandate. Now, an attorney for Hobby Lobby says it will defy the mandate and potentially risk potential fines of up to $1.3 million per day. The full story is at:http://www.lifenews.com/2012/12/28/hobby-lobby-will-defy-obama-hhs-mandate-risk-millions-in-fines/
    Based on the multitude of companies already being exempted on other than religious exemptions, it would seem that all Christian companies subject to this mandate should join with the 40 current lawsuits against the mandate for religious reasons in sympathy with Hobby Lobby. As Christians we cannot be compelled to violate our consciences and/or the sanctity of life as God’s Word describes. The Word of God takes precedence over the civil and criminal laws if the latter violates the Word of God.
    Recent videos show the progression of this, starting with a video from one month ago:

IFB ABUSE: ABC NEWS 20/20 REPORT APRIL 8, 2011

This is the link to the lengthy ABC News video report by Elizabeth Vargas on IFB abuse. Be advised that it is hard hitting and graphic, preceded by advertising and is in parts with advertising between parts. It is well worth watching though to get you to realize what you should be looking for in a church, either your present church or ones you are considering.
http://abc.go.com/watch/2020/SH559026/VD55121488/2020-48-victims-forced-confession

VERSES PASTORS TWIST & MISUSE TO CONTROL

    From BGBC Survivors blog, https://ratherexposethem.org/2012/12/spiritual-abuse-verses-pastors-twist.html, comes a posting about the various and sundry Scripture verses that Reformed Baptist and other abusive/controlling pastors use on their flocks.

    Please refer to (cult deprogrammer/exit counselor) Mary Alice Chrnalogar’s book “Twisted Scriptures” and the following pages for misuse of Scriptures:
1) Page 214-2Thess.3-misinterpretation of “disorderly”, “busybodies”, “shunning”, “shaming”.
2) Page 214-1Thess.5:22-misinterpretation of “avoiding evil” to include “uncommitted believers”, etc.
3) Page 217-Luke 14:26-misinterpretation of “hating” family members.
4) Page 218-Luke 9:60 and Matt 8:22-misinterpretation of “burying the dead”.
5) Page 218-2John 9&10-misinterpretation of “refusing to welcome”.
6) Page 219-Matt 18:15-17-misuse of “confronting sin”.

    

IFB ABUSE & HEPHZIBAH HOUSE FOR GIRLS

Reformed Baptist spiritual abuse of adult Christians is bad enough. IFB physical abuse of minors is what this is about. Some Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) churches and parents have and are supporting a “correctional” home in Winona Lake, Indiana known as Hephzibah House run by Ron and Don Williams, where “rebellious” girls from IFB families are sent for discipline in various forms described as extreme abuse by survivors. Said parents may have been inspired by Williams’ sermon about daughters who may be developing a so-called “Jezibel spirit” or “Strange Woman” tendencies, as in: http://archive.org/details/StrangeWomanDoctrine, and the video:

Or the parents may have read and interpreted Michael and Debi Pearl’s book “To Train Up a Child” http://nogreaterjoy.org/, reported on in the two videos below, after believing the advice to be the inspired Word of God from his “anointed”:

Or they may have taken to heart the belief of Pearl that training a child is the same as training an animal as expressed in his own words in this video:

Williams refuses to answer reporter’s questions:

At the excellent blog of Cynthia Kunsman, http://undermuchgrace.blogspot.com, there are excellent Blog Talk Radio interviews by Jocelyn Andersen exposing Hephzibah at these audio links:
https://ratherexposethem.org/2012/01/information-about-hephzibah-house-and.html
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jocelynandersen/2011/04/16/hidden-abuse-in-the-baptist-church-part-i-2020-episode
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jocelynandersen/2011/04/18/helplessnes-bounded-choice-life-at-hephzibah-house
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jocelynandersen/2011/04/23/hidden-abuse-in-the-baptist-church-part-ii-hephzibah-house
The five (5) part audio series of Jeri Massi on Hephzibah at: http://www.jeriwho.net/tlohh.html
Former Hephzibah Girls blog: http://formerhephzibahgirls.webs.com/
Hephzibah Girls blog: http://www.hephzibah-girls.blogspot.com/
Fundamentally Reformed: http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2011/09/21/hephzibah-house-horrors/
A heart wrenching video by Jocelyn Zichterman on IFB abuse and Hephzibah House abuse:

And finally, the video about the Lydia Schatz death from beatings as a result of (among other abusive methods) parents using flexible plumbing supply tubes on this child and other children.

MAC ARTHUR ON FREEMASONRY

As noted before, the Southern Baptist churches are filled with and influenced by Freemasons. As such, the SBC has taken a somewhat neutral stand on the incompatibility of Freemasonry with Christianity, while other churches have clearly condemned it unequivocably. John MacArthur exposes Freemasonry in this video below:

WAYNE GRUDEM-THE DARLING & “GO TO GUY” OF REFORMED CONTINUATIONISM

First a recent introductory video of an interview of Grudem and D’Souza just prior to the last presidential election of November, 2012:

Wayne Grudem is Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Trinity Evangelical
Divinity School, Deerfield, Illinois, USA, where he has taught since 1981. Prior to that he was
Associate Professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Bethel College, St. Paul, Minnesota
(1977-81). He received a B.A. from Harvard University, an M.Div. from Westminster Seminary,
Philadelphia, and a Ph.D. (in New Testament) from the University of Cambridge, England.  He was
ordained as a minister in the Baptist General Conference in 1974. He has published four books,
including The Gift of Prophecy in the New Testament and Today, The First Epistle of Peter
(Tyndale New Testament Commentaries), and Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (co-
edited with John Piper). He is a member of the Vineyard Christian Fellowship of Evanston, Illinois.
He and his wife Margaret have three sons. Dr. Wayne Grudem is Research Professor of Bible and Theology at Phoenix
Seminary. He holds a B.A. from Harvard University,
M.Div. from Westminster Theological Seminary and Ph.D. from the University of
Cambridge. He has served as president of the Council for Biblical Manhood and
Womanhood, as president of the Evangelical Theological Society (1999), and as a
member of the Translation Oversight Committee for the English Standard Version
of the Bible. He has written more than 60 articles for both popular and academic
journals, and his books include: Systematic Theology: An Introduction to
Biblical Doctrine
, The Gift of Prophecy in the New Testament and
Today
, and Business for the Glory of God. He has also co-edited
Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A response to Evangelical
Feminism
and edited Are Miraculous Gifts for Today? Four Views.
    Grudem on Oneness Pentecostals like TD Jakes (a modalist) where he waffles on those who deny the Trinity:

Grudem’s defense of the charismatic, signs and wonders Vineyard Church founded by John Wimber (Toronto Blessing) is at this link, titled “Power and Truth”:
http://www.vineyard.org.za/papers/paper4.pdf

Critique of Grudem’s Doctrine of Divine Eternity:
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/a-critique-of-grudems-formulation-and-defense-of-the-doctrine

Michael Horton article from White Horse Inn, “Reformed and Charismatic?”:
http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2011/08/22/reformed-and-charismatic/

Challies interview with Grudem on Continuationism and Cessationism:
http://www.challies.com/interviews/continuationism-and-cessationism-an-interview-with-dr-wayne-grudem

Stephen Kring of Grace Fellowship Church on Grudem’s view of NT Prohecy:
http://www.gfcto.com/articles/theological-issues/grudems-view-of-nt-prophecy

Oneplace.com radio interviews with Grudem:
http://www.oneplace.com/search/?q=grudem&r=show&ss=breakpoint

Grudem’s connections to John Wimber and the Vineyard Movement:
http://www.svchapel.org/resources/articles/19-charismatics/31-the-vineyard-movement-part-1
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/vine/vineyard.htm
http://www.newchurches.com/mediafiles/the-vineyard-movement.pdf

Grudem is widely revered despite the above associations. The problem is his view of prophecy, his continuationism (of spiritual “sign” gifts), the allowance and acceptance of the so-called “baptism of the Holy Spirit” as evidence of salvation, his personal prayer language (praying/speaking in “tongues”), and his failure to condemn charismatic, pentecostal, Word of Faith prosperity/healing and dominionist (New Apostolic Reformation) leaders and churches. This has resulted in not only confusing his readers worldwide, but introducing doctrinal confusion and a spirit of ecumenism which despite his otherwise orthodox views, is serving to soften true Bibilical Christianity and making it less doctrinal.

THE IMPLOSION OF “REFORMED CHARISMATICISM”

A Christmas present from Sovereign Grace Ministries as reported by Brent Detwiler http://www.brentdetwiler.com is below. It seems that that all the twists and turns of this never ending church saga either shines a strong spotlight on the continuing modern day perversion of the Reformation OR it is just another marketing ploy of the “semper reformanda” (always reforming) crowd. Just what we need on Christmas Eve, i.e., a ton of men’s wisdom, which is only more foolishness, if not a severe reproach on the church of Jesus Christ and the true Gospel. Sure seems like God’s “judgment begins in the house of the Lord”! Luther would be posting another 95 Theses if he was alive today. But he’s not with us, so we have this blog and other blogs using the internet instead of the Gutenberg press to bring it into the light. Especially since the “laity” of SGM has been advised to keep their heads buried in the sand so as not to notice. Below is the unedited report in its entirety:

BrentDetwiler

Posted: 22 Dec 2012 11:33 AM PST
Sovereign Grace Ministries is in total disarray.  Last Sunday, the largest and most influential church in the denomination announced its decision to sever ties.  Two days later, Dave Harvey abruptly stepped down from all his sizeable leadership responsibilities.  This is mind boggling news.
After C.J. Mahaney, no one is a greater luminary in SGM or before the evangelical world than Dave.  Here’s his biography as it appears on the SGM website. 

Dave Harvey
Church Planting and Church Care
Sovereign Grace Ministries
Glen Mills, Pennsylvania 
Dave Harvey is responsible for church care, church planting, and international expansion for Sovereign Grace Ministries.  He has served as a member of the Sovereign Grace Ministries leadership team since 1995. 
Dave has been in pastoral ministry at Covenant Fellowship Church (Glen Mills, PA) since 1986, was ordained in 1988, and served as senior pastor from 1990 to 2008.  He has served on the board of the Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation since 2006.  Dave received a Master of Arts in Missiology from Westminster Theological Seminary in 1989, worked toward a Master of Divinity from Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary from 1993 to 1995, and in 2001 became a graduate in Westminster’s D.Min. program.  The subject of his doctoral thesis was the identification and equipping of church planters. 
Dave is the author of Am I Called? The Summons to Pastoral Ministry (Crossway, 2012), Rescuing Ambition (Crossway, 2010), and When Sinners Say “I Do”: Discovering the Power of the Gospel for Marriage (Shepherd, 2007).  He contributed a chapter to Worldliness: Resisting the Seduction of a Fallen World (Crossway, 2008) and wrote a chapter for Why Small Groups?, a book from Sovereign Grace’s Pursuit of Godliness series.  He continues to work on other writing projects. 
Dave lives in West Chester, Pennsylvania, with his wife, Kimm.  They have four children and, despite his many protests, one stray cat. 

Dave and I have a long history together going back to the early 1980’s when I was his first pastor in Indiana, PA.  He joined C.J, Steve Shank, Bo Lotinsky and me on the SGM Board of Directors in 1995. 
From 2000-2005, Dave and I worked in earnest to help C.J. see and turn from his long-standing and serious patterns of sin.  We were in total agreement regarding our assessment of C.J.’s character and leadership. 
By 2005, Dave was deeply discouraged and exasperated with C.J.  He had no hope C.J. would change and was exhausted after years of trying.  His trust in C.J. was greatly shaken and he was on the verge of despair.  I know because I was caring for his soul during this time. 
I continued to raise issues with C.J. but Dave made a conscious decision that year to accommodate C.J. and relate to him like a rebellious teenager.  Those are Dave’s exact words.  This is documented in A Final Appeal (pp. 90-97). 
In January 2006, Dave wrote C.J. a lengthy personal letter outlining his concerns and frustrations (AFA, pp. 85-87).  This was Dave’s last attempt to help C.J.  C.J. never responded to letter.  After this Dave went into retirement and stopped bringing concerns and correction to C.J.  He could not handle the on-going stress of dealing with C.J. and he did not want to jeopardize his prominent position in SGM.   
C.J. was Dave’s bread and butter but this accommodation to C.J. cost Dave his integrity.  His desire for national recognition exceeded his commitment to speak the truth without worldly concern for the consequences.  By 2007, he fully embraced the culture of accommodation surrounding C.J.  That same year I resigned from the SGM Board having lost respect for C.J.
When C.J. took his “leave of absence” in July 2011, Dave became the Interim President of Sovereign Grace Ministries for 9 months.  That began an even greater fall from grace that led to unimaginable deceit and heavy-handedness as he manipulated a puppet Board, the SGM pastors and the entire ministry with the help of men like John Loftness and Mickey Connolly.
But by June 2012, a couple members on the new Board began to tell others of a breakdown in Dave’s relationship with C.J.  Even though Dave had continuously lied, schemed, and covered up for him, C.J. was not pleased with Dave.  I wrote Dave immediately and brought this to the attention of the entire Board who were unaware.  See A Divided Board Makes C.J. Mahaney Long Term President (June 29, 2012).        

From: Brent Detwiler
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:48 AM
To: Dave Harvey
Subject: Falling Out with C.J.
Importance: High
Hello Dave, 
I’ve been told about the break down in your relationship with C.J. because he feels you did not defend him adequately and did not denounce me, Larry T, etc. more harshly.  This comes as no surprise.  You need to bring this to the immediate attention of the entire Board to whom you and C.J. are now accountable.  Be honest with them.  Don’t cover up for C.J.  Put an end to the enablement.  You must tell the Board about this mistreatment of you.  Dave, you know full well that nothing has changed with C.J.  Your assessment and my assessment from 2004 are as relevant today. 
Dave’s Assessment 
“To correct CJ, or to challenge his own self-perception, was to experience a reaction through e-mails, consistent disagreement (without seeking to sufficiently understand), a lack of sufficient follow-up and occasionally, relational withdrawal.  Along with this, CJ was poor in volunteering areas of sin, temptation or weakness in himself.”
Brent’s Assessment
1. Can become resentful, distrustful or withdraw when he feels misunderstood, judged, or sinned against by others.
2. Can judge or prematurely come to conclusions about others based on limited or incomplete information.
3. When correcting or disagreeing can communicate his assessment or perspective too strongly or categorically.
4. Can lack gentleness and not perceive the unhelpful effect of his words, actions or decisions upon an individual. 
5. Can be difficult to correct and help because he often disagrees with or has a different perspective on illustrations.   
6. Infrequently makes us aware of specific sins or the correction others are bringing to him.    
I have little hope you and C.J. will be transparent with the Board.  I imagine this will be glossed over and made to sound like a trifle when it is serious.  Please turn the corner on a new lease in life by doing what is right. 
Regards, 
Brent 

Dave has been out of sight for the last 9 months.  The last time he posted or was featured on the SGM website was in March 2012 when he introduced the new Board.  Except for speaking at the November 2012 Pastors Conference, Dave has not been heard from in a long time.  When leaders go missing in SGM it is always a bad sign.  It usually means they have fallen out of favor with C.J.
In the letter to Dave above, I concluded by saying, “Please turn the corner on a new lease in life by doing what is right.”  Dave has done a lot wrong in relation to his family, C.J., and SGM.  He has finally been asked to step down by the pastors of Covenant Fellowship Church (CFC) outside of Philadelphia. 
I addressed these issues and also the unwillingness of the CFC pastors to be honest with the church about the true state of Dave’s family and other disqualifying sins in Dave’s life on my blog in March 2012.  For years, the pastors have been covering up for Dave in the same way Dave and others have been covering up for C.J.  See Dave Harvey’s Deceitful Leadership Covered Up and Left Uninvestigated – Exposed Tonight at Covenant Fellowship Church (March 4, 2012) and Hardball (March 6, 2012).  The house of cards is now collapsing. 
Here’s Dave’s statement from Tuesday of this week.  My comments are interspersed in blue lettering. 
## 
Some News from Dave
December 19, 2012
http://www.covfel.org/blog/some-news-from-dave/
Merry Christmas my friends,
I have some news that is now sprinkling our holiday season with an unexpected grace and I’m eager to share it with you.
As I’ve been experiencing the care of the elders and reflecting on the way forward, it’s become clear that the connection to my local church, my team, and my family should be prioritized in this next season. However, I don’t see how a more singular focus on these things would be possible with the extra-local responsibilities I’ve been carrying.  So, after discussion with the elders and with their support, I believe we’ve found a way to bring that emphasis.  I am stepping off the Sovereign Grace Leadership Team, largely eliminating my ministry travel, and resuming my role as a full-time elder at Covenant Fellowship through August 2013.  Let me shoot straight with you – this has not been an easy decision.  But Kimm and I now have a growing faith for what God intends to do as we take these steps.
Dave makes no mention of discussing this decision with SGM or of their support for his action.  Dave and the pastoral team took this radical action without involving with C.J. or the SGM Board of Directors.  I’m sure this only adds to the rift between Dave and C.J. 
“Experiencing the care of the elders” should be understood as including the discipline and correction of the pastors.  “Care” is something of a euphemism.  Dave does not divulge what kind of correction he has been receiving but the issues have reached a point where he was asked to step down in order to focus on “the connection to my church, my pastoral team and my family.”  The resignation was not “an easy decision” and Dave and Kimm “now have a growing faith for what God intends to do.”  There is more to this story than meets the eye.    
In predictable fashion, Dave tells us absolutely nothing about why this stepping down was necessary.  This is a radical step and one that would not be taken at this time if not for dire reasons.  Dave’s departure from his leadership post could not come at a worse time for SGM.  It throws them into greater confusion and creates an ever growing cloud of suspicion.  What is really going on here?  Will anyone in CFC or SGM just be honest?  This kind of statement only fuels suspicions and inevitably leads to skepticism because it lacks any kind of meaningful transparency. 
Now, just so there is no misunderstanding: this step does not reflect any lack of confidence in Sovereign Grace, our direction, or our leadership.  Actually, I’m quite excited over our mission to plant churches and serve pastors.  I think our new polity, if ratified, will help us do this even better.  It’s really my confidence in God’s grace already working so evidently through this family of churches that emboldens me to step away from the Leadership Team role I have occupied for the last 17 years.  Nope, the story on this is not about what Sovereign Grace lacks but what one pastor needs right now.
This is a lot to parse.  Statements like this cannot be accepted at face value because these kinds of press releases are inevitably full of spin as we have observed repeatedly over the last year and a half.  For example, when Joshua Harris stepped down from the SGM Board in July 2011, Dave told us Joshua was in 98% agreement with SGM.  It was a manipulative attempt to minimize the stark differences that led to the recent separation. 
Dave takes the opportunity to pump up SGM like an inflatable Santa Clause with a big hole.  For instance, “I think our new polity, if ratified, will help us [plant churches and serve pastors] even better.”  Great Dave.  Let’s hope SGM keeps up the good work as more and more churches leave the denomination.  Or, “It’s really my confidence in God’s grace already working so evidently through this family of churches that emboldens me to step away from the Leadership Team role I have occupied for the last 17 years.”  This is all hype and I believe Dave knows it.  He could be singing a different tune in nine months.  I would not be surprised if this begins his transition out of SGM.  He expresses no desire to return in this statement.
Dave also has a very short memory.  The four thousand people and 20 pastors at Covenant Life Church just severed ties with SGM two days before he released this statement leading into the chaos of Christmas.  This kind of positivism is so disingenuous.  SGM is being shaken to the core by Almighty God and Dave is emboldened to step away because all is well.  Dave would never make this move now if there weren’t very serious problems that needed immediate attending in his life, family and on the pastoral team.
Also, this transition back to Covenant Fellowship is not being initiated by Sovereign Grace; it’s a step I have voluntarily taken with the counsel of the elders – I’m grateful for the way they have walked with us through this decision.  It’s one of those times where local and family needs must take priority over extra-local relationships/ministry.  I want time in the church that I love and more connection to the men I have served with, some for over two decades.  I need to continue to receive their friendship and counsel.  And I want to be a part of what God is doing here.
Once again we see the “transition” was requested by the elders and without C.J.’s counsel.  C.J. can’t be pleased.  Furthermore, take note when Dave says, “It’s one of those times where local and family needs must take priority over extra-local relationships/ministry.”  “Local…needs” is a reference to the pastoral staff.  Not only are there problems in his family but also among the pastors.  I suspect there is division over issues concerning Dave, C.J., SGM, the SG Book of Church Order, etc. 
So what does this “one pastor need right now?”  He gives only this nebulous answer.  “I need to continue to receive their friendship and counsel.”  Dave and the pastors in Covenant Fellowship Church do not believe in congregational accountability.  They continue to act on their own and behind the veil of secrecy divulging nothing of significance to the church. 
Why won’t the pastors at CFC be open and honest with the church about the reasons for this mind boggling development?  Will Dave come clean and acknowledge to the church what has been going on for a long time?  I really doubt it.  This stepping down is at best a half measure.  I’d be surprised if Dave’s disqualifying sins were confessed to the church.  In all likelihood, he will continue to be treated with partiality and favoritism just like C.J. as things are covered up in his personal, family and ministerial life.  I don’t expect any truth telling, only vagaries, but I always hope I am wrong.
So, my friends, this is good news for Kimm and I and I hope it hits you that way as well.  As to how I’ll be serving in Covenant Fellowship, I leave that to our elders – I’ll serve wherever they want.  As to what I’ll be doing beyond August 2013, I leave that to the Lord, confident that he’ll make it clear to us all.  As to our hopes for this season,…well, maybe some refreshment, some reconnection, some additional growth, and maybe lots of good fruit.  So please pray – pray for lots of good fruit.
It may be good news for Dave and Kimm but it is bad news for C.J. and SGM.  In the sovereignty of God this removal of Dave from SGM leadership is but another expression of his discipline and the on-going dissolution of SGM.  In the wisdom of God, no leader of any “prominence” remains in SGM except for C.J., Bob Kauflin and Jeff Purswell.    
Dave doesn’t know what he will being doing at CFC over the next nine months.  Nor does he know what he will do starting September 2013.  He expresses no interest in returning to SGM.  I’m not sure Dave wants to come back given his broken relationship with C.J., the greatly diminished stature of SGM, and the deep seated problems that plague the ministry.  Dave is no dummy.  These are all factors in his thinking despite his denials.  There are greener pastures in other fields.  But first we must “pray for lots of good fruit.”  What kind of fruit?  Dave doesn’t want us to know.  He gives no standards by which to evaluate his progress which should be evident to all (1 Tim 4:15).
It will be interesting to see how Covenant Fellowship Church responds to this announcement.  It was made a week before Christmas so that buys the elders some time.  Few members will make much of this immediately.  It awaits the New Year.  But will the church continue to be passive and indifferent or will substantial number of members finally ask hard questions and require honest answers of Dave and the pastors?  Thus far Jared Mellinger, the senior pastor, has managed to corral the church into a mindless submission.  His threatening’s to discipline slanderers and divisive members has all but silenced the church.  For instance, see What Does My Website Have in Common with Pornography?  Ask Jared Mellinger! (February 18, 2012).  His lording over the church has only been exceeded by Mickey Connolly in Charlotte, NC.  That must change.
Thanks for being the kind of church that makes a place for pastors, whether they’re young or old, green or weathered, fresh or embattled.  Because for us, drawing into Covenant Fellowship means coming home.
Dave feels old, weathered and embattled.  He wants to get out of the fight and salvage his family and relationships on staff.  These are his felt needs but not his greatest needs.  I know Dave extremely well.  He fully recognizes how serious the problems are in his life, his family, on the pastoral staff and in SGM.  He knows what he must do to get right with God and others and he knows the same for C.J.  He lacks no knowledge, only obedience to Scripture.  Psalm 32 is the remedy for all Dave’s woes.  I hope he turns the corner. 
See you Sunday!
Dave
##
Here is the accompanying statement by the pastors.
Covenant Fellowship Elders Statement:
Dave’s decision is one we fully support and believe represents the Lord’s direction for him and his family, as well as our church.  We are grateful for Dave’s willingness to follow the elders in this process. In making this decision, he embodies the collection of values that guide the elders called the Pastoral Team Affirmations: the values of devotion, humility, honesty, integrity, accountability, faithfulness, and unity.  These include receiving the assessment of those who serve with us and trusting God to work through the leadership and care of the elders.  How Dave has sought to walk with the team during this past difficult year and the decision he’s come to both reflect his deep commitment to these values.  Even more so, they demonstrate a faith in God that deeply affects us.
This statement sheds a little, but just a little, light on what has been transpiring.  Dave has been “receiving the assessment of those who serve with [him]” in relation to “the values of devotion, humility, honesty, integrity, accountability, faithfulness, and unity.”  He is willing “to follow [obey] the elders in this process.”  That is good but truth be told, these men hardly qualify bringing this kind of assessment because they suffer from the same maladies.  For example, Mark Prater has acted in the most unscrupulous way over the past 18 months [see Panel Report on Brent Detwiler’s Dismissal from Grace Community Church (January 25, 2012); The Need for Watchmen (October 5, 2012)] and Jared Mellinger has conducted himself like a demagogue [see What Does My Website Have in Common with Pornography?  Ask Jared Mellinger! (February 18, 2012)].
That aside, what is their assessment of Dave’s character?  Is he above reproach (1 Tim 3:1) and blameless (Tit 1:6)?  The obvious answer is no but I think hell will freeze over before the pastors are candid with the church about his true condition.  I have no doubt this is a disciplinary action by the elders.  Therefore, not only should CFC be told the basis for this action but so should all of Sovereign Grace Ministries.  That kind of transparency is expected in Scripture.   
Over the last ten years the elders have failed to deal with Dave in a biblical fashion (1 Tim 5:19-21).  In 2003, C.J. told me he thought Dave may need to step down as the senior pastor and should make a public confession to the church when major problems began to surface in his family.  Since then those problems have only worsened and intensified.  This and much more has been concealed from the church though many people in the church are aware of the family issues but afraid to speak out against the deceitful cover up that has transpired.  The elders also need to give account to the church for their compromise.  See Dave Harvey’s Deceitful Leadership Covered Up and Left Uninvestigated – Exposed Tonight at Covenant Fellowship Church (March 4, 2012) and Hardball (March 6, 2012).
We are eager and expectant for God’s grace and blessing in and through these steps, and we are full of faith for the good fruit that will come from them.  We love and respect Dave and Kimm for walking this path with us.  Our hope is that this upcoming season will result in a platform of even greater strength, in the home and in ministry, that will afford decades of local and extra-local fruitfulness.  To God be the glory!
I may be reading too much into this paragraph but the elders may not return Dave to full orbed service in ministry.  Such a restoration appears dependent on “good fruit” in “this upcoming season.”  The pastors have not removed Dave from the eldership but this action represents a major demotion.  It will interesting to see if Dave is allowed to preach or counsel others regarding marriage and family life. 
Moreover, the pastors say nothing about “decades of…extra-local fruitfulness” for Dave with SGM.  I believe some of them have serious misgivings about C.J.  They have registered their concerns with me regarding C.J. in the past.  They have seen his lording and deceit and experienced his harshness and sinful judgments in pastoral situations.  Mark Prater, Andy Farmer and Jim Donahue know of what I speak.  In their statement, the elders make no effort to express confidence in C.J. or a hope for Dave’s return to any position in SGM.  Dave and the pastors are entirely moot regarding their future commitment to C.J. and SGM.
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Here is the press release put out by Sovereign Grace Ministries on Thursday.
Leadership Team Update
December 20, 2012
As we work together in our mission to plant and build churches with the gospel of Jesus Christ, we want to inform you of a change in Sovereign Grace Ministries’ Leadership Team.  Dave Harvey has made the decision to resign from our Leadership Team so that he can resume his full-time role as an elder at Covenant Fellowship Church.  Dave made a public statement yesterday explaining this change on the Covenant Fellowship Church blog.
“Dave Harvey has made the decision to resign from our Leadership Team.”  Hit the pause button!!!  Think about what this means for SGM at such a crucial point in its history.  Dave Harvey, the most public leader in all of SGM after C.J., is gone.  The ministry of SGM has been built around C.J. and Dave Harvey for the past five years.  After C.J., Dave has been the biggest draw to SGM.
Consider, Dave has been the center of the wheel for all SGM does in terms of church planting and oversight around the world.  He is the primary reasons for its growth and expansion.  In my opinion, Dave is the most gifted man in SGM when considering his total skill set.  His responsibilities have been massive.  He is also extremely well connected in the evangelical world. 
People must recognize that Dave is to growth and expansion what Jeff Purswell is to the Pastors College.  Without him there is a huge sink hole under the foundation.  No one can replace him as an equal.  No one has done more to attract and train church planters than Dave.  His strategic thinking is the key to SGM’s numerical success in the past. 
So how does C.J. explain this to the movement?  By simply saying “Dave Harvey has made the decision to resign from our Leadership Team so that he can resume his full-time role as an elder at Covenant Fellowship Church.”  End of statement.  C.J. can’t possibly be honest with the ministry.  He can’t tell all the pastors and people who remain in SGM why Dave really resigned.  Why?  Because C.J. would have to resign for the same reasons as Dave.  Here’s what I mean.  I have no doubt the pastors of Covenant Fellowship Church required that Dave resign from SGM because the issues in his life, family and ministry are serious.  He is barely an elder now. 
Though I have little confidence in the CFC pastors given their track record, they have done the right thing in demanding Dave resign from SGM without asking C.J.’s permission.  That took some nerve.  I commend them.
As Dave communicates in his post, this change does not reflect any lack of support for the direction or leadership of Sovereign Grace Ministries.  Dave is, in fact, excited about our future mission and the benefits our new polity will bring to this work.  He has expressed hopes of possibly returning to SGM service someday in the future.  As Dave states, “…the story on this is not about what SGM lacks but what one pastor needs right now… It is one of those times where local and family needs must take priority over extra-local relationships/ministry.”  
Contrary to this press release, Dave expresses no hope of “possibly returning to SGM service someday in the future.”  Maybe he said something to C.J. in private but he says nothing of the sort in his public statement.  Assuming he or the elders actually conveyed this thought to C.J. it is an extremely weak assurance.  The operative words are “possibly” and “someday.”  There is no guarantee Dave will ever return and if he does I don’t believe it will be in nine months.  He’s life is a mess right now.  I think this is a long term reclamation project.  He has lost the trust and confidence of his local elders and they have finally acted.  No band aids please.
This is precisely what the Covenant Life pastors should have done with C.J. in the past.  It is what his current elders should require of C.J. now in Louisville but that is a lost and hopeless cause.  If C.J. goes down, they all go down.    
This brief update provides insufficient space to adequately thank Dave for his outstanding contributions leading us in church care, church planting, and international expansion since 1995.  These past 17 years Dave has played a vital role in keeping Sovereign Grace’s mission to plant and build churches with the gospel of Jesus Christ at the forefront of all we do both domestically and internationally.  His proactive development of an SGM church planting group served to prepare future church planters for their calling.  His model of church care in the Northeast region both strengthened individual churches and SGM as a whole.  Covenant Fellowship Church, where Dave served as senior pastor for 18 years, has influenced SGM in countless ways through its example, teaching, and generosity.  And Dave’s vision to further equip church planters through his focused writing and preaching on the topic will serve pastors for years to come.  Please join us in thanking Dave for the unique role he has played serving us as a family of churches.  
This reads like an obituary or eulogy at Dave’s funeral. 
We are grateful that his influence and service do not end here.  Though transitioning from our Leadership Team, we look forward to Dave’s continued investment in the mission of SGM through his service as an elder at Covenant Fellowship Church this year.  Please join us in praying for Dave and his family during this transition.
Dave’s “influence and service” do end with Sovereign Grace Ministries and it is uncertain what limited a role he will play at CFC as an elder.  There is no guarantee Dave will return to SGM.
Finally, we want to you know that the SGM Board looks forward to communicating the plan to cover Dave’s responsibilities as part of our transition to the new polity, pending ratification.
This development caught C.J. totally by surprise.  He was not consulted or involved in the process of making the decision to have Dave step down.  He was kept out of the loop by the CFC elders.  This bespeaks of a lack of confidence in C.J. and the SGM Board of Directors.
C.J. is now the last man standing.  Soon more churches will leave SGM because the leadership culture is corrupt and the polity proposal unbiblical.  Yet, C.J. and his shrinking entourage continue to blame everyone else for the demise of SGM.  In so doing they further provoke the indignation of God.  The only solution.  C.J. must follow Dave’s example and step down from all his responsibilities in Sovereign Grace Ministries.  Of the two, he is the greater sinner. 
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NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION/THIRD WAVE/DOMINIONISM/7 MOUNTAINS MANDATE

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    Above is a picture/diagram/schematic of the 7 Mountains Mandate subscribed to by the New Apostolic Reformation which is a loosely organized movement of dominionist, charismatic, pentecostal, and word of faith leaders, churches, and political figures. It basically makes the assumption that the churches and Christians in general should involve themselves into seven areas of life with the aim of taking control over them. Since a lot has already been written on this movement by others, the purpose here is to introduce this movement to those unfamiliar with it and to point to the appropriate sites where existing research lies.

First, this video of Lance Wallnau, apologist for the 7 Mountain Mandate, promotes the Dominionist view:

    Second, this video from the 7 Mountain Apologists Wallnau, Hillman, and Enlow who are tailoring their “terminology” to the audience, and are heistant to say they are creating a “new theology”:

John MacArthur videos on the “Modern Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and the connection to the NAR followed by the connection to John Wimber and the Vineyard Movement and the Third Wave:

MUST SEE: Vimeo video of Sandy Simpson, “A Tale of Two Kingdoms” at: http://vimeo.com/53829980

Sources of Information:
http://apprising.org/category/new-apostolic-reformation/ (various articles)
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/thecall.html (Rick Joyner & The Call)
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/j08.html (Rick Joyner & Morningstar Ministries)
https://ratherexposethem.org/2010/05/mainstreaming-dominionism.html
https://ratherexposethem.org/2008/07/kicking-kingdom-into-high-gear.html
https://ratherexposethem.org/2011/09/who-invented-dominionism.html
https://ratherexposethem.org/2007/06/dominion-at-first-it-may-seem-like.html
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/sarah-leslie/dominionism.htm (Sara Leslie article)
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/discernment/5-may-day.htm
https://ratherexposethem.org/2010/06/seven-mountains.html
http://apprising.org/2011/07/02/ihop-enters-dominionchristian-right-politics/ (IHOP affiliation with NAR)
http://www.morningstarministries.org/
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/9/24/155523/590 (Sam Rodriguez)
http://www.generals.org/ (NAR Generals International)
http://cicministry.org/radio_series.php?series=apostles (Bob DeWaay’s articles on the NAR)
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html (Sandy Simpson on the NAR)
http://hiswordfirst555.ning.com/group/newapostolicreformation2/forum
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arise.html (transcript of C. Peter Wagner by Sandy Simpson)
http://kimolsen.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/a-strong-delusion-what-is-the-new-apostolic-reformation/
http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain22.htm (article about C. Peter Wagner & the NAR)
http://www.reclaim7mountains.com/
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel10.html (Climbing Joyner’s Gnostic Mountain)
http://www.pfo.org/r-joyner.htm (Personal Freedom Outreach on “The Higher Life Of Rick Joyner”)
http://www.seekgod.ca/cohenjoyner.htm (Prophecies of Rick Joyner & Rabbi Cohen at Messiah ’99)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15902535/THIRD-WAVE-EXPOSED
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/5/0244/84583 (Third Wave)
http://www.equip.org/articles/joels-army-marches-on/ (CRI on Joel’s Army & Elijah List)

REFORMED BAPTIST “CHURCHMANSHIP” A/K/A DISCIPLESHIP ABUSE

    Have you ever taken a “spiritual gifts survey” after your pastor or elders recommended it in a sermon about the multitude of gifts we have as members of the body of Christ, only to be told later that you are not mature in the faith yet, have to be discipled, and/or “watched” for an indeterminate length of time before you can use these gifts, or that the gifts “reside” in the eldership alone? Do these attributes look familiar to you about your church and elders?:
1)”A giant tongue that speaks with absolute authority, and a giant ear that listens with unquestioning obedience.” 
2)But some ministers cannot endure the process of maturing in the sheep.” 
3) “Dictatorial measures make lesser men craven and dependent, stunting their true growth.” (See above 3 quotes below in Reisinger article).
    First, as an introduction, Jon Zens of Searching Together http://www.searchingtogether.org, presents the following video, in which he proposes that there should be no distinction between clergy and laity or any sort of contrived hierarchical structure in the church, the “body of Christ”. Perhaps what we are seeing or personally experiencing in abusive “divinely appointed” or “duly authorized” eldership is due to the inordinate and excessive powers assigned to and assumed by the leadership to the detriment of the laity. “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: The prophets prophesy lies, and priests rule by their own authority, and my people love to have it this way.” Jeremiah 5:30,31″           Whatever happened to the “priesthood of believers” (1Peter2:5 “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ”, and 1Peter2:9 “But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light”). He does not specifically refer to Reformed Baptist churches or elders.



The following is a link at Wicked Shepherds: http://www.wickedshepherds.com/WhenShouldaChristianLeaveaChurch.html to a reprint of John Reisinger’s article “When Sould a Christian Leave a Church”, which specifically addresses Reformed Baptist abuse. Some quotes from this article are:
“law ministry” where the Elders were the “Lords and Masters 
“pastor had deliberately placed himself between the husband and wife” 
“daring to question God’s “duly authorized” minister
“you are so sick spiritually that you can’t think straight.”
Whose glory is in their shame,” 
 Our preacher did not step on our fingers, he used a sledge hammer.” 
 “The preaching of the law that sends believers home week after week with a despondent and despairing heart”
“The legalist binds your conscience to the law”
 “sheep are led to true peace by whipping them with the law every week”
“no right to feel “secure in Christ” until his daily life can “pass inspection” by the “holy Law of God.”
 “afraid and terrified” even to speak what was in their hearts for fear of the elder’s discipline?”
“personally being treated like a dog”
“beating the sheep into subjection”
“The Confession of Faith is clear. Who are you to dare contradict that venerable document.” 
“Arrogance and an overbearing spirit is never acceptable in elders.”
 “Yet a church may be as much injured by tyranny as by anarchy.”
“Sheep cannot be whipped and driven into conformity with pastoral wishes.”
“you are actually part of a cult and you have totally given up your true liberty in Christ.”
“use the office of elder and deacon as a carrot stick to award the “really loyal devotees.” 
 “domineering spirit in the elders.” 
“the office of elder is almost raised to the level of priest.”
“The people under such a pastor “run to him for decisions” about their whole life.”
“they have a view dangerously close to the autocracy of Rome.”
“he must seek to put your neck under the yoke of law”
“They threw out the church’s authority over your soul but hung on to the church’s authority over your conscience.”


“When a situation gets to the place that men are willing to literally turn children against their parents, and turn wives and husbands against each other, then it is time to speak loudly and clearly.”
“When believers are taught to actually hate another believer simply because he dared to challenge the pastor, the cultic mentality must be exposed”
    In this regard, Albert Martin, former head pastor of Trinity (Reformed) Baptist Church, Montville, NJ quotes from Luke 14:26 to justify their form of discipleship to Christ, stressing the hate aspect more than the discipling:

   

YOGA-ITS OCCULT HINDU ROOTS-NOT FOR CHRISTIANS!

1Corinthians 10:20-21But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.
    If you thought that yoga was harmless exercise offered by your local liberal church and/or the YMCA/YWCA in your town, think again, biblical Christians. Similar to the degrees of Freemasonry, yoga is an introduction to a deeper involvement in Hinduism, the emptying of the mind via contemplative (Catholic) mysticism, the worship of other gods and demons, deceptively leading one away from the Word of God and possibly ending in demonic possession. There are various types of yoga including yoga re-packaged for Christians (so-called “Christ-centered alternatives to yoga”). These are supposedly safe for Christians, but is the risk worth it, when there are so many other forms of exercise?
    For example, Brooke Boon’s “Holy Yoga” http://holyyoga.net, offered at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church, http://www.saddleback.com/events/eventdetails.aspx?id=52061, or the “Praise Moves” of Laurette Willis, http://www.praisemoves.com, and “Atoning Yoga” of Lauren Terwilliger, http://www.atoningyoga.com.

Holy Yoga: Jesus is the Guru:

Praise Moves video:

Atoning Yoga video:

    The following resources refute this mixture of yoga with Christianity from a biblical point of view. There are many other resources on the internet to prove that yoga in any of its forms or mutations is to be avoided for your spiritual health.

“The Yoga Boom: What are Christians to Do?” video by Elliot Miller, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFRPLzZ7pA8, (1HR/21MIN).
“Yoga Exposed” video by Scott Johnson, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nzxv327fYA,(1HR/36MIN)
Scott Johnson’s 2 part article with audio at Contending for Truth.com on Rick Warren’s “New Health and Wellness Initiative”: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?p=2511 and http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?p=2506
Chris Lawson of Spiritual Research Network (SRN), http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/home.html, has three excellent videos on Vimeo: “Calvary Chapel & Purpose Driven Pastors Doing Yoga?”, http://vimeo.com/53131997 (11MIN), and “New Age Teachings Influencing Your Church, Your Children & You”, http://vimeo.com/53145537 (6MIN)(yoga at 5:45min mark), and “‘A Time of Departing’ (book by Ray Yungen) & New Spirituality Terms”, http://vimeo.com/53127158 (7MIN).
Lighthouse Trails Research has articles on yoga, http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/yoga.htm and a new article, Barbie
and American Girl Dolls Have Gone Yoga
 at http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=10533
Mike Oppenheimer interview on video, “Labyrinths (1st half) and Yoga (2nd half) Used by Christians” below:

Test everything by the Word of God!


ABUSE, CONTROL, AND/OR RETALIATION IN 3 CHURCHES

 SIMILARITIES EXIST AMONG ALLEGATIONS regarding:
 1) Sovereign Grace Ministries
2) Jack Schaap and Jack Hyles of First Baptist of Hammond, Indiana
3) Beaverton Grace Bible Church

    What do these churches have in common, other than fundamentalism?
    Maybe you are aware of all three of the above church issues, maybe not. All have similar scenarios of alledgedly abusive leadership and alledgedly abused church members. #3 above is addressed below.
    The parties in a lawsuit (since dismissed), filed prior to July, were Beaverton Grace Bible Church http://www.beavertongracebible.org/, an apparent independent fundamental church, pastored by Chuck O’Neal as plaintiff and Julie Anne Smith et al, as defendants. It was for $500,000. The defendants were former congregants at this church who voiced allegations of control, abuse and misuse of pastoral authority, etc. in their blog http://www.bgbcsurvivors.blogspot.com. In return, the above lawsuit was initiated and filed on behalf of the pastor, but in addition, the pastor created his own blog to counter the former congregants’ blog referred to as the so-called “real survivors” blog http://www.bgbcsurvivors.org.
    You can decide for yourself who is right and who is wrong, but it is nevertheless extremely unfortunate and disgraceful and a reproach on the church and name of Jesus Christ that this was dragged into a civil court at all. Aside from the allegations coming from both sides, the right of church members to approach their leadership with concerns, observations, opinions and questions should be absolute without retaliation. The right of church members to also voice these publicly is a constitutionally protected right, unless of course they are known to be false, unfounded or slanderous. The exercise of these God-given rights is not a matter for “church discipline” in the form of punishment, shunning, marginalization, and/or ostrasization, and least of all lawsuits. A PASTOR or ELDER is not a POPE, autocrat, or dictator. Some pastors do however, become “wolves in sheep’s clothing”, where absolute obedience to them is required and commended. Lacking such fealty, the sheep are at risk of being destroyed in an abusive manner whether they remain in such a church or decide to leave. These pastors believe, in their assumed arrogant “anointing” that their control of Christians extends beyond the church property. Such is the case here, since they believe that the civil and criminal authorities have been instituted by God.
    Todd Rhoades of Toddrhoades.com has no opinion and some doubt on this matter, but he would like your comments on “if you were accused (wrongfully) of child abuse…if your church was accused of horrible things?”: http://toddrhoades.com/pastor-starts-website-to-attack-churchs-attackers/. I draw your attention to the word “wrongfully” and the question mark “?” inserted in this quote. No opinion here?
    From Katu.com is the following picture and report upon the dismissal in court: http://www.katu.com/news/local/Judge-dismisses-case-where-pastor-sued-former-parishioner-163953036.html
    Here are some relevant videos:

For Sovereign Grace issues see: http://www.brentdetwiler.com
For First Baptist Hammond/Hyles/Schaap issues see: http://www.wayoflife.org

 
 

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