At the Echo Zoe website are two articles from 2012 concerning Bill Johnson of Bethel Church, Redding, California. The first contains a very good audio interview with Bob DeWaay: Part 1 of 2. Part 2 of 2.
Followed by two articles from Echo Zoe concerning the New Apostolic Reformation. The first and second both contain very good audio interviews with Sandy Simpson: Part 1 of 2. Part 2 of 2.


Rick Warren urges Christian youth to be like Hitler youth. The video ends with an endorsement by “The New Apostolic Reformation Team”. Fascism under the guise of a so-called “New Reformation” of works, action, deeds for the “life of the community”, by “deconstructing” the 1st Reformation of Martin Luther, et al, with its so-called outdated emphasis on doctrines and beliefs. However, the life of the individual is suppressed and submerged to the greater good of the community, Nazi style. You are the worker accountable to the leader (fuhrer). This is the new paradigm of doing church whether you like it or not.


The full text of this presidential proclamation dated January 16, 2013 is on the White House website, and copied below. Hence, all expressions of religion or religious beliefs outside a place of worship and within the course of everyday life and socialization are hereafter prohibited:

Presidential Proclamation-Religious Freedom Day

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Foremost among the rights Americans hold sacred is the freedom to worship as we choose. Today, we celebrate one of our Nation’s first laws to protect that right — the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. Written by Thomas Jefferson and guided through the Virginia legislature by James Madison, the Statute affirmed that “Almighty God hath created the mind free” and “all men shall be free to profess . . . their opinions in matters of religion.” Years later, our Founders looked to the Statute as a model when they enshrined the principle of religious liberty in the Bill of Rights.
Because of the protections guaranteed by our Constitution, each of us has the right to practice our faith openly and as we choose. As a free country, our story has been shaped by every language and enriched by every culture. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus, Sikhs and non-believers. Our patchwork heritage is a strength we owe to our religious freedom.
Americans of every faith have molded the character of our Nation. They were pilgrims who sought refuge from persecution; pioneers who pursued brighter horizons; protesters who fought for abolition, women’s suffrage, and civil rights. Each generation has seen people of different faiths join together to advance peace, justice, and dignity for all.
Today, we also remember that religious liberty is not just an American right; it is a universal human right to be protected here at home and across the globe. This freedom is an essential part of human dignity, and without it our world cannot know lasting peace.
As we observe Religious Freedom Day, let us remember the legacy of faith and independence we have inherited, and let us honor it by forever upholding our right to exercise our beliefs free from prejudice or persecution.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim January 16, 2013, as Religious Freedom Day. I call on all Americans to commemorate this day with events and activities that teach us about this critical foundation of our Nation’s liberty, and show us how we can protect it for future generations at home and around the world.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this sixteenth day of January, in the year of our Lord two thousand thirteen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-seventh.


Below are some videos which show that Sovereign Grace Church of Marlton, NJ has decided to offer the less than biblical, Catholic charismatic leaning Alpha Course of Nicky Gumbel. The real danger here is that the true gospel of Jesus Christ is lost over a free meal, and consensus discussion groups using the diaprax method of watering down Scripture based on feelings and personal unregenerate misinterpretations. A program like this which is a corrupt mixture of dumbed down Scripture, Catholic charismaticism and mysticism, and avoids offensive aspects of the sin filled life of humanity in a depraved state, may be a fun social time for nominal Christians, ex-Catholics, or so-called “seekers”, but does not rise to the level of an accurate presentation of the real gospel of Christ, or a valid, God ordained method for regeneration as articulated in the Bible. It is just another “feelings based” approach to “evangelization” by the emerging churches. What’s a little surprising is that a Sovereign Grace church, which is supposedly “reformed” in the neo-Calvinist sense, would see nothing wrong with it. Could it be the charismatic side of the SGM dualistic theology as per the continuationist, reformed charismatic, Wayne Grudem, i.e., the “go to guy” for this sort of thing? The appeal of course is to the cutting edge, higher level “yuppie” crowds who work in the big cities of Philadelphia and New York, but prefer the suburbs just east of the worst city for crime in the USA, Camden, NJ. No mention here of redeeming that city! A lot does get lost in those consensus building discussion groups, but no one should have the audacity to spoil the atmosphere by actually quoting Scripture!


Here are the essentials of the yet untried complaint against Sovereign Grace Ministries, et al, below. No conclusions or judgments should be drawn at this time about the parties named therein.

Five pseudonymous plaintiffs are added to the original three.
  5. KARL KOE 
The judge assigned to the case has been named: the Hon. Sharon V. Burrell.
Three institutional defendants are added to Sovereign Grace Ministries.
  1. Covenant Life Church, Inc.
  2. Covenant Life School, Inc.
  3. Sovereign Grace Church of Fairfax
Two individual defendants are added to existing eight.
  1. Mark Mullery
  2. Vince Hinders
A net total 28 charges are added (goes from 115 to 143).
Material issues added to the lawsuit:
  • The physical abuse of children
  • Sexual abuse occurred on church premises and at church events
  • Sexual predators were negligently hired as employees
  • PAULA POE repeatedly sexually assaulted by a pastor/teacher and children’s ministry worker
  • A pedophilia ring operated at Covenant Life Church and Covenant Life School
  • CARLA COE was repeatedly abused (not sexually) by Larry Tomczak and co-conspirators
  • KARL COE repeatedly sexually molested by the male son of a Church pastor.


As with Sue Monk Kidd who worships a goddess of her own making because she’s not all that satisfied with the God of the Bible being referred to as Father, so too with this self-described “contemplative poet” (in video below) who is not happy with the patriarchal line of male figures in Christianity and desires the divine feminine instead of submitting to the will and purpose of the true God of the Bible. This type of endeavor is extra-biblical and heresy, although being intrinsic to Catholic contemplative mysticism. The second video is a cutesy dance by supposed Catholic girls who want ordination of women to the Catholic priesthood.

Compare to Sue Monk Kidd:

Compare to the promo video for a new book “Goddess Shift” with a host of authors that are liberal anti-Christian God haters, New Age mystics, and assorted other women’s liberation feminists such as Jane Fonda, Shirley MacLaine, Michelle Obama, Oprah, Madonna, Angelina Jolie, etc. who are are the darlings of the pop pagan Godless culture attempting to remake the God of the Bible into a feminine idol.


    Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary has described the Obama administration’s grab at a new state church that “requires a ‘license’ of embracing sexual liberation in all its forms”, that is, before you can do just about anything in a public way.
    Notably absent from his comments is any criticism of Giglio’s emerging “evolved” theology, failure to reiterate the true Christian position against homosexuality and other deviant behavior as described in the Bible as he did 15+ years ago, failure to explain why he has avoided preaching on this subject for the last 15+ years, and why it “hasn’t been in the range of my (his) priorities” for this time period.
    Why doesn’t Moore press these issues with Giglio publicly when the time is ripe? Is it that pastors like this are used to being exempt from public accountability because they are now the new leaders (not shepherds or ministers) of the flock who are above and beyond reproach? Or is this just another example of pastoral timidity or cowardice too? We would venture to say both, i.e., when faced with an opportunity to clearly define boundaries they won’t broach the subject for political correctness, leaving God’s Word maligned by failure to act when appropriate. As Chris Rosebrough said, it is like a soldier being AWOL from the battlefield.
    Clearly, when there are so many pastors behaving like this for all the world to see (in name only, who only see themselves as lords over people), there is fertile ground for fascism in both church and state now. They are nothing less than complicit with an evil, corrupt, anti-Christian state. Shades of Hitler’s Germany once again. A public rebuke is in order for these types.
    Here is Moore’s article:
    David Cloud of Way of Life has a lengthy article citing 12 categories of what will be illegal when homosexuality is legal:


    We let a few days go by before addressing this issue so we could see and hear what others wiser than us could offer. Nevertheless, certain themes have risen to prominence like fat in the soup when chilled in the refrigerator. Those of us Christians who are still faithful to historic Protestant/Reformed Christianity and the 5 Solas, remember a day when pastors as well as ordinary Christians would, could, and wanted to defend the faith, confront/expose false gospels and teachers, and clearly and publicly identify sin and its types.
    This is a new day, a new page has turned, in the life of Christians and Christianity. In case you haven’t been noticing for the last few decades what has been the great slide downward into rampant heresy and apostasy, you may still think this is trivial and only affects a select few, but not you. You are wrong.
    Now with the likes of Louis Giglio, and his like-minded, one-in-the “spirit” church leaders (no longer “ministers”), i.e., the neo-calvinist, neo-reformed, hyper-charismatic, word of faith, new apostolic reformation, dominionist, pentecostal, neo-evangelical, purpose driven, continuationist, emerging, new paradigm, new age, occult, Druckerite, fascist, “higher order Christian” pastors, are gleefully merging their efforts into this rich BOUILLABAISSE STEW/SOUP of the new way of doing church. Sometimes there is the fat that needs to be skimmed off if we are to eat healthy! What’s to be done with the useless fat if you have no use for it, or better,you are on a back to basics, lean and disciplined diet of Bible alone! Could be that the soup itself is toxic!
    Chris Rosebrough of Fighting for the Faith has some really good insights into the “rejection/resignation” of Louis Giglio from Obama’s 2013 inauguration and the implications for us as Christians as the State Religion of Obama is now implemented: This audio of Chris is added:

And Todd Rhoades of Leadership Network, being interviewed by a Giglio “supporter, has not missed the opportunity to inject his sympathies and worries about the “fundamentalist” camp stirring up inordinate concerns about the homosexual agenda:

Wherein Chris references Al Mohler’s article on the same subject from the “McCarthyite” point of view (anti-Communist inquisition), titled “The Giglio Imbroglio” (like the Italian scandals):
    Erin Benzinger of Do Not Be Surprised has this very well written article as well, which includes some revealing statements by Giglio himself demonstrating his distaste for controversial subjects that might offend the anointed one and be in conflict with the new world order and our own anti-Christian State Religion:



The lawsuit against Sovereign Grace Ministries et al has been amended to include additional plaintiffs and defendants. Some of it is graphic. This has been covered before under this blog’s post categories of “Abuse” and “Sovereign Grace”. These, again, are still allegations yet to be proved in a court of law.
    Peter Smith of the Courier-Journal reports on it here:
    Michelle Boorstein of the Washington Post also reports on this here:
    The amended lawsuit in its entirety is at:


    Reformed Baptist churches claim they differ from one to another. That is the public facade.
    These are excerpts from a typical 25 page constitution of a Reformed Baptist church, which, in addition to a separate membership agreement hidden from public view until such time when and if you are deemed a suitable candidate, are required to be affirmed and signed as legally binding contracts.
    A Reformed Baptist church views itself not only as an ecclesiastical entity, but also an organizational entity, affirming that “The Bible alone is absolutely binding upon our consciences”. However, the 25 page constitution and membership agreement, etc., are also binding, so therefore it is disingenuous (if not deceptive) to imply that “the Bible alone” is their only standard of faith and practice.
    In fact, Reformed Baptists make much of man made rules, regulations, and discipline in the name of “preserving and protecting” their organization to supplement the Bible’s “inadequacies” relative to the church organization, commonly and euphemistically called the “body of Christ”, whose authority and power in such an organizational business model, is vested in the leadership solely.
    So much for the so-called “reformed, protestant freedom of conscience” and “rights of the individual”. This is minimally at best a congregational model, but rather very similar to the Druckerite, fascist, “fuhrer” style of top down leadership. Where the congregation becomes involved is usually at the “suffrage” and behest, request, permission or direction of the eldership, and rarely on its own initiative. For example:
Excerpt A):
The Authority of Our Polity Commitment.
The Bible alone is absolutely binding upon our consciences, as our final and ultimate authority in all ecclesiastical matters. Yet, it is proper and necessary for any organization to set forth clearly what its purposes are and the principles by which those purposes will be pursued. The reasons for this are as follows: a) it promotes harmony and cooperation founded upon righteous order; and b) it provides defense against misunderstanding on the part of those outside who question the principles by which the church operates. Therefore, we are committed and bound to follow this Constitution conscientiously. We are never at liberty to violate it at whim or to ignore its provisions and requirements, lest we be brought to confusion and chaos, for God is not the author of confusion but of peace (1Co 14:33).
Excerpt B):
The Interpretation of Our Polity Commitment.
From time to time, questions may arise as to whether an action, contemplated or taken, is in accord with this Constitution or in violation of it. In such cases, the elders shall attempt to resolve the matter privately to the satisfaction of all concerned. If they are unable to do so, the question shall be resolved by congregational suffrage as a matter of corporate church business at a regular or specially called congregational meeting for that purpose.
Excerpt C):
The Preservation of Our Distinctive Ecclesiastical Identity. 
Since preservation of our ecclesiastical purpose is also essential to our continuation as a true church, we must take care lest we forget what we are designed to be and to do as an organization.
Excerpt D):
Furthermore, in order to achieve our perseverance in our distinctive ecclesiastical identity.
We hereby commit ourselves to transmit our heritage, embodied in our Confession and this Constitution. To this end, each member of the church shall be furnished with a copy of our Confession and Constitution and is expected to review each of them annually. It is expected that the regular preaching will be thoroughly biblical and therefore, consistent with and at least, indirectly expounding our Confession of Faith. In addition, the elders shall be responsible every five years, beginning five years from the adoption of this Constitution, to plan the public ministries of the Word so that no fewer than ten messages in the Lord’s Day morning services be devoted to a review of our Confession of Faith. These messages will focus on the importance of the Confession of Faith, a summary overview of its entire contents, and the biblical basis of its teachings that are under greatest contemporary attack. In like manner, no fewer than twenty Adult Classes will be devoted to our Confession and Constitution.
Excerpt E):
Awareness and instruction alone, however, will never suffice
to transmit our heritage unimpaired. Constant vigilance and open, unashamed affirmation on a regular basis are essential. Without these, the things we now hold dear will someday be matters of indifference and then someday will be lost altogether. Therefore, each member shall reaffirm in writing his or her commitment to our Confession and Constitution at the time this Constitution is adopted. These written reaffirmations will be kept in our church records. Subsequent reaffirmations shall be made every five years at a congregational meeting following the public teaching on the Biblical themes of the Confession and Constitution. Hopefully, each member will continue to affirm his or her basic agreement with the Confession and Constitution. However, those who cannot affirm their basic agreement with these documents ought to transfer their membership to another church where they will be in greater agreement or face exclusion from this church.
Excerpt F):
Written Application and Interview.
A person who desires to become a member of the church shall apply to the elders by submitting a completed, membership application form.
Excerpt G):
Previous Church Affiliation.
If the applicant is or has been a member of another church, efforts will be made to determine the person’s standing in that church and his or her reasons for leaving.
Excerpt H):
Congregational Consent and Commitment. 
In the stated meeting of the church at which a person is to be received into membership, he or she shall be asked verbally to affirm his or her commitment to Christ and to the Confession and Constitution of this church.
Excerpt I):
Regular and temporary members are required to attend all the stated meetings of the church.
Excerpt J):
Implications of Termination.
The elders may, at their discretion, disclose to other churches the circumstances under which a person’s membership was terminated.
Excerpt K):
Closed Communion.
We welcome to partake of the Lord’s Supper with us all those believers, and only those believers, who are members in good standing of churches holding to the essential doctrines and disciplines of historic Protestantism.


Randy Clark, Bill Johnson and other “Latter Rain/New Apostolic Reformation” charismatic/pentecostal personalities will be at the upcoming “Voice of Apostles 2013”, August, 2013, in Orlando, Florida promo:

    The “Global Awakening History” on the Global Awakening/Apostolic Missions Network church website of Randy Clark, located in Mechanicsburg, PA, relates how Clark, a Vineyard church pastor, met Wimber, ex-Quaker, who founded the Vineyard Church:
    Let Us Reason relates the Randy Clark associations with Rodney Howard-Browne, Kenneth Hagin, and Bill Johnson of “Freshfires Revivalism” renown:
    More on “Revival Fires” is at the Charisma magazine article “Where is Global Revival Headed?” by Randy Clark himself describing his set of beliefs, one being ecumenism, sounding more like Wayne Grudem, i.e., more “centrist” and middle of the road:
    At Sermondrop, the “healing rooms” training sermons of Clark and Johnson are here for your listening pleasure:
    What is a “healing room”? Well this video gives only the public face of the ecumenically involved folks who use what they believe are Holy Spirit given gifts in a “deliverance ministry” to cast out demons in those “rooms”:

    John Wimber’s Vineyard Church has been a major proponent of “healing rooms” as well as affiliated Vineyard churches and pastors such as Bruce Latshaw of Vineyard Christian Fellowship, Landenberg, PA: and Latshaw (of Jesus People origin) himself:, where he is spreading it locally, using the same methods and philosophy of John G. Lake,, a faith healer who dates back to the Azusa Street pentecostal revival in Los Angeles, California around 1907.
    See also: and John G. Lake Ministries now headed by Curry Blake at:
    Randy Clark is a “course developer” at his “Christian Healing Certification Program”: This is a promo video from Global Awakening inviting you to the courses run by 12 “teachers of deliverance ministry” which helps you deal with the demonic realm, using high tech:

Some of the 12 are pictured from right to left, as seen in the article:
Bill and Beni Johnson – Bethel Church, Global Legacy, and Apostolic Network of Global Awakening
Heidi and Rolland Baker – Iris Ministries
Georgian and Winnie Banov – Global Celebration
Che and Sue Ahn – Harvest Rock Church and Harvest International Ministries
Randy and DeeAnne Clark – Global Awakening
John and Carol Arnott – Catch the Fire (formerly Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship) and Partners in Harvest below:

    Birthpangs has a 4-5 part article on Bill Johnson which is excellent:
    Crosswise/Walking in the Truth (Craig) at, has sections of his website on the Latter Rain Movement, Bill Johnson, Bethel Church (Redding, CA), New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Beyond Grace blog has similar resources:, and specifically about Bill Johnson and Bethel here:
    Finally, closing for now pending further inspiration, are these telling videos:
“Extreme Prophetic-Randy Clark-‘Shekinah Glory Prophecy'”:

Then, “Bethel Church and the Glory Cloud” producing religious hysteria:

Then, closing with Bill Johnson’s advice on how to “produce a supernatural mindset”, by “following signs and wonders until they follow you”:



The following resources show the progression from the Jesus Movement up to today:
Lonnie Frisbee and influence on Wimber:
“Assessing the Wimber Phenomenon” article at CRI:
Deception in the Church articles:
Biblical Discernment Ministries article, “John Wimber and the Vineyard”:
Matthias Media’s The Briefing article: “John Wimber Changes His Mind”:
The Wartburg Watch’s article “John Wimber Plants a Vineyard”, with videos of “gold teeth miracles”:


This is an enormous subject, so it will be presented piece by piece as the research comes together. As a start, this video is a promotion type piece boosting Randy Clark, who is portrayed as “Fire Lighter, Vision Caster, Bridge Builder”, having a “commitment to ‘Power Evangelism'”(the Wimber term). All these terms are reflective and normative of John Wimber, Randy Clark and Bill Johnson being students of, also seen in this video:


    The self-appointed Southern Baptist pastrix/elder/prophetess Beth Moore, could easily identify with any charismatic, pentecostal, word of faith church, pastor and/or teacher/preacher. Even the neo-reformed personality pastors like Wayne Grudem, John Piper, Albert Mohler, Jr., CJ Mahaney and “reformed charismatic” denominations/fellowships such as Sovereign Grace Ministries, “Reformed” Presbyterian, etc. are continuationist to one degree or another. They do not believe that the “sign gifts” of the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues, healing, prophecy, words of knowledge ceased with the death of the apostles and the establishment of the early church. Concurrently, they believe in the continuation of modern day apostles and prophets that have authoritative (and sometimes non-authoritative per Grudem) revelations for us today.
    Wayne Grudem, although claiming to be “reformed”, nevertheless has “allowed for” the possibility of the continuation of these gifts. This allowance is confusing especially when one considers that Grudem was an in-house theologian and apologist for John Wimber’s Vineyard Church which is hyper-charismatic, and subscribes to “power evangelism”, the belief that evangelism cannot be effective without “the stuff”, i.e., displays of the alleged sign gifts. Grudem has also admitted that he prays in a “private prayer language” known and understood by him alone. Grudem as well as the rest of these continuationists are making the canon of Scripture fluid, i.e., adding to or subtracting from the words and original/in context meanings.
    All the continuationists are not to be trusted, despite their seeming orthodoxy at times. Error is sometimes hidden in massive amounts of truth. It is better to be willingly discerning like the Bereans than to be willingly ignorant. The leaven of error eventually rots the whole. Don’t think you can make use of what seems good and leave the rest.
    Here Beth Moore becomes bolder in her assertion that she is hearing directly from God for your benefit. At the same time she maligns the so-called “religious extreme” of cessationism by both mischaracterizing cessationists and what they believe about miracles AND God’s ability or willingness to perform miracles. This is a deceptive form of DIAPRAX, presenting the thesis and antithesis and selling the compromise as a “reasonable” position for you to adopt:



    From the Christian Post is an article about Gary Haugen speaking at Louis Giglio’s “Passion 2013” to approximately 60,000 youth about slavery in the world and the goal to raise $3 million to end it:
    Trouble is, these same youth have been brainwashed by the public schools and their “community” minded pastors to think socialism, if not fascism, both of which will enslave people right here in the once free U.S.A., if not now then tomorrow. Instead, all that money could have been used towards preserving individual freedom here, in both church and state.
    The following video shows Todd Rhoades of Leadership Network, discussing the fact that scripture twisting Louis Giglio of Passion 2013 has been chosen to deliver the invocation and benediction at Obama’s inauguration on January 21, 2013. Apparently the association of Giglio as well as Rick Warren in 2008 with socialist Obama is something to giggle about. That should come as no surprise, given that Todd Rhoades is associated with the mega-church pastor training outfit Leadership Network, one of the sources, besides the Peter Drucker sycophants and Catholic mystical adherents of the emerging churches, of gospel twisting, enslaving, church leadership methodologies. It doesn’t occur to all these that slavery is being birthed right in the U.S.A. while they market their self aggrandizing, allegedly slave-ending campaigns in third world countries.
    These are perilous times with the cult of personality seeking every opportunity to, and learning to glorify themselves, with all the latest marketing techniques along with the internet, the media, the social networks, using grandiose, experiential conferences/venues, geared to infect the youth with their apostasies and heresies.
    BEWARE, THESE ARE EVIL DAYS! As was true with Hitler, all it takes is an entire nation to be deceived, starting with the youth and the churches complicit.


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