HYPOCRITE: NOW Critical of Mega-Churches Who Have Used His Adulterated, Mangled “Message Bible”?


Eugene Peterson: Donald Trump is ‘The Enemy’ Who Has ‘No Morals or Integrity’


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Presbyterian Pastor Eugene Peterson issued a stinging criticism of
Donald Trump, saying the U.S. President is “the enemy” who has “no
morals” and “no integrity”.

The scholar and author of popular book The Message: The Bible in Contemporary Language, was recently asked by Jonathan Merritt of Religion News Service to share his thoughts on Trump and the “political mood animating our world.”
Peterson, 84, did not mince words in his response.
“I think we’re in a bad situation. I really do,” he said.
“Donald Trump is the enemy as far as I’m concerned. He has no morals. He
has no integrity.”

added, “But I have good friends who think he’s wonderful. But I think
they put up with it less and less. People are getting pretty tired of
him, I think. Some of us were tired of him before he was elected. I
think we can put up with it, though. I don’t think it’s the end of the

During the presidential election, Trump garnered major
endorsements within the evangelical community, including Paula White, a
televangelist and pastor of mega-church New Destiny Christian Center in
Florida, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr., and Robert
Jeffress, the pastor First Baptist Church-Dallas. Overall, white
evangelical voters voted in high numbers for Trump, with 81 percent,
according to exit poll results
However, other evangelical leaders, like Desiring God author
John Piper, Russell Moore, who presides over the political arm of the
Southern Baptist Convention, and evangelical theologian Wayne Grudem
actively spoke out against Trump’s campaign, policies, and tactics.
Peterson, who pastored Christ Our King Presbyterian Church
in Bel Air for twenty-nine years, said he believes there’s a “whole
part” of the Christian church that “operates out of fear.”
“It’s a negative kind of gospel, which I think is quite
contrary to the Gospel that Jesus brought to us,” he said. “I’m not
happy with that. As with Trump, I think we can survive that too.
Overall, I’m optimistic. That’s the short answer.”
Earlier this year, Peterson teamed up with U2 frontman Bono and retired Presbyterian to release a documentary about the book of Psalms and is currently finishing his final book, “As Kingfishers Catch Fire: A Conversation on the Ways of God Formed by the Words of God.”
In his interview with RNS, Peterson shared his thoughts on
homosexuality, telling the outlet that if he were stll pastoring, he
would perform a same-sex wedding if asked.
Merritt notes that in “The Message,” Peterson doesn’t use the word “homosexual” and “homosexuality” in key texts. 
popular author also said he doesn’t believe pastors today are “doing
their job”, as many churches are more concerned with increasing the
number of attendees than ministering to individuals.
“I think the thing that’s most disturbing is the megachurch
because megachurches are not churches,” he said. “My feeling is that
when you’re a pastor, you know the people’s names. When 5,000 people
come into the church, you don’t know anybody’s name. I don’t think you
can be a pastor with just a bunch of anonymous people out there. In the
megachurch, well, there’s no relationship with anybody. I think the
nature of the church is relational. If you don’t know these people that
you’re praying with and talking with and listening to, what do you have?
I feel pretty strongly about that.”

He added that overall he isn’t “disheartened” by the state of the church, but is “upset by the fad-ism of the megachurch.”

“I just don’t think they’re churches,” he said. “They’re entertainment places.” 

Here’s what Eugene Peterson says of U2 in the foreword to the spiritually silly book Get Up Off Your Knees, Preaching the U2 Catalog:

Is U2 a prophetic voice? I rather think so. And many of
my friends think so. If they do not explicitly proclaim the Kingdom,
they certainly prepare the way for that proclamation in much the same
way that John the Baptist prepared the way for the kerygma of Jesus…Amos
crafted poems, Jeremiah wept sermons, Isaiah alternately rebuked and
comforted, Ezekiel did street theater. U2 writes songs and goes on tour,
singing them.

 The Rock Group U2 
 ““Bono played a far more
significant role on the formative years on those who became emergent
than anyone else, from a human standpoint. Bono, in the 1980s, was, if
not worshipped, then absolutely adored by millions of Christian youth
who were hanging on his every word. They saw his cool kind of
Christianity. He helped lead people into what eventually became the
emerging church. Bono has led people into a version of Christianity that
is so slippery, so undefinable, so liberal, yet he is considered the
main icon of the emerging church”
(Joseph Schimmel, The Submerging Church, DVD, 2012).”

Eugene Peterson, author of The Message, says U2 has a prophetic voice to the world and says Bono is a prophet like John the Baptist (foreword to Get Up Off Your Knees: Preaching the U2 Catalog).”
In fact, U2 is not a church and
rather is destitute of spiritual truth when judged biblically. That U2
is wildly popular with contemporary Christians is a fulfillment of the
apostasy described in 2 Timothy: “For the time will come when
they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall
they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall
turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (2
Timothy 4:3-4).”

There is no evidence in U2’s lives, music, or performances that they honor the Word of God.”
Though he speaks positively of
Romanism, Bono has nothing good to say about “fundamentalism,” falsely
claiming that it is a denial that God is love (
Bono on Bono, p. 167) and calling it vile names (p. 147).”

Bill Flanagan, a U2 friend who
has traveled extensively with the group, in his authorized biography
describes them as heavy drinkers and constant visitors to bars,
brothels, and nightclubs.”

For their Vertigo Tour in 2005,
U2 promoted “Coexist” as an icon for world peace. Bono wore a “coexist”
headband that featured the cross of Christianity, the crescent moon of
Islam, and the star of David of Judaism: and he led the crowds in
shouting, “Jesus, Jew, Muhammad, it’s true; all sons of Abraham.””

 Bono & Eugene Peterson | THE PSALMS
 Published on Apr 26, 2016

short film documents the friendship between Bono (of the band U2) and
Eugene Peterson (author of contemporary-language Bible translation The
Message) revolving around their common interest in the Psalms. Based on
interviews conducted by Fuller Seminary faculty member David Taylor and
produced in association with Fourth Line Films, the film highlights in
particular a conversation on the Psalms that took place between Bono,
Peterson, and Taylor at Peterson’s Montana home.

The film is
featured exclusively through FULLER studio, a site offering
resources—videos, podcasts, reflections, stories—for all who seek deeply
formed spiritual lives. Explore these resources, on the Psalms and a
myriad of other topics, at

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a Fourth Line Films production, in association with Fuller’s Brehm Center Texas and W. David O. Taylor

message, 2002] Mr. Peterson, Eugene, my name is Bono. I’m the singer
with the group U2 and wanted to video message you my thanks and our
thanks from the band for this remarkable work you’ve done. There’s been
some great translations, very literary translations, but no translation
that I’ve read that speaks to me in my own language, so I want to thank
you for that. Take a rest now, won’t you? Bye.

Eugene Peterson:
never heard of Bono before. Then one of my students showed up in class
with a copy of the Rolling Stones—Rolling Stones?—and in it there was an
interview with Bono in which he talked about me and The Message. He
used some slangy language about who I was, and I said, “Who’s Bono?”
They were dumbfounded I’d never heard of Bono, but that’s not the circle
I really travel in very much. That’s how I first heard about him.

people started bringing me his music, and I listened to his music, and I
thought, “I like this guy.” After a while I started feeling quite
pleased that he knew me.

[Interview at Point Loma Nazarene University, 2007:]
Dean Nelson:
Yes, but the rest of the story is that he invited you to come and hang with them for a while. You turned him down.

Eugene Peterson:
I was pushing a deadline on The Message. I was finishing up the Old Testament at the time, and I really couldn’t do it.

Dean Nelson:
may be the only person alive who would turn down the opportunity just
to make a deadline. I mean, come on. It’s Bono, for crying out loud!

Eugene Peterson:
Dean, he was Isaiah.

Dean Nelson:

Jan Peterson:
Old Testament is a long, long book, much longer than the New Testament,
and it did take a long time and a lot of devotion on both of our parts
to have that happen.

I have to say, in the last years,
Eugene’s writing has kept me as sane as this is, if you call it sane,
which you probably won’t. Run With the Horses, that’s a powerful manual
for me, and it includes a lot of incendiary ideas. I hadn’t really
thought of Jeremiah as a performance artist. Why do we need art? Why do
we need the lyric poetry of the Psalms? Why do we need them? Because the
only way we can approach God is if we’re honest through metaphor,
through symbol. Art becomes essential, not decorative. I learned about
art, I learned about the Prophets, I learned about Jeremiah with that
book, and that really changed me.

Eugene Peterson:
several years later…This was about 4 years ago, 4 or 5 years
ago…Bono would like Jan and me to come to Dallas for a concert. We
went to the concert. He was very sensitive to us. We were really well
cared for, had really good seats. I’d never seen a mash pit before. That
was my introduction to the mash pit. Is it a pit?

(Voice off camera):
It’s a mosh pit.

Eugene Peterson:
Mosh pit. Okay. You can see how uneducated I am in this world.

had a 3-hour lunch. We just had a lovely conversation. It was very
personal, relational. He didn’t put me on any kind of a pedestal, and I
didn’t him, so we were very natural with each other. Through that 3-hour
conversation, I was just really taken by the simplicity of his life, of
who he was, who he is. There was no pretension to him. At that point I
just felt like he was a companion in the faith.

[About U2’s song “40,” based on Psalm 40:]
think it’s one of his best ones. He sings it a lot. I mean, he does
this a lot. It’s one of the songs that reaches into the hurt and
disappointment and difficulty of being a human being. It acknowledges
that in language that is immediately recognizable. There’s something
that reaches into the heart of a person and the stuff we all feel but
many of us don’t talk about.

[Quoting from The Message’s translation of Psalm 40:]
waited and waited and waited for God. At last he looked. Finally he
listened. He lifted me out of the ditch. He pulled me from deep mud,
stood me up on a solid rock to make sure that I wouldn’t slip. He taught
me how to sing the latest God-song…


Today is 250th birthday of the President most knowledgeable about Islam: John Quincy Adams



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John Quincy Adams was born on July 11, 1767 in Braintree,
Massachusetts, and served as President of the United States from March
4, 1825 to March 4, 1829. Of the 44 men who have held that office, he
demonstrated the greatest knowledge of Islam. His impressions of that
religion, however, were not favorable; today, he would be excoriated as a
racist, bigoted “Islamophobe,” and were he President, there would be an
insistent chorus of rage demanding his impeachment, resignation, and/or
head on a platter.
Consider the vicious and relentless hatred that is
directed against President Trump for merely daring to try to impede the
flow of jihadis into the United States by restricting immigration from
six countries for 90 days. Adams, for saying the statements below, would
be flayed mercilessly in a manner that would make the treatment of
Trump look gentle.
But can anyone prove that anything he says below about Islam is false?
Hugh Fitzgerald will be along in a few days with a proper tribute to
this far-seeing and honest man, but in the meantime, you can read his
words about Islam and consider how much the public discourse has
changed, not for the better, since the days of John Quincy Adams.

“In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering
Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of
transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the
fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger
from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive
portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic
law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with
it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and
apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope
of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust,
by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the
gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human
felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex,
and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and
exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of
Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a
war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant;
nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has
been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the
merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish
motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good
will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and
every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious
dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so
many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over
the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus.
The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that
Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives,
by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false
and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet,
may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to
propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it
can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed
alike, by fraud, or by force.
The fundamental doctrine of the Christian religion, is the
extirpation of hatred from the human heart. It forbids the exercise of
it, even towards enemies. There is no denomination of Christians, which
denies or misunderstands this doctrine. All understand it alike—all
acknowledge its obligations; and however imperfectly, in the purposes of
Divine Providence, its efficacy has been shown in the practice of
Christians, it has not been wholly inoperative upon them. Its effect has
been upon the manners of nations. It has mitigated the horrors of
war—it has softened the features of slavery—it has humanized the
intercourse of social life. The unqualified acknowledgement of a duty
does not, indeed, suffice to insure its performance. Hatred is yet a
passion, but too powerful upon the hearts of Christians. Yet they cannot
indulge it, except by the sacrifice of their principles, and the
conscious violation of their duties. No state paper from a Christian
hand, could, without trampling the precepts of its Lord and Master, have
commenced by an open proclamation of hatred to any portion of the human
race. The Ottoman lays it down as the foundation of his discourse.”
The American Annual Register for the Years 1827-8-9, pp. 269, 274, and 300, found here.


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 Senior leaders of the United Nations gathered recently to continue plotting 
the future of globalized pseudo-education, which they said must be 
imposed on every child on the planet to advance
 the UN's radical plan for humanity known as “Agenda 2030.” Speakers at 
the so-called “High-Level Event on Education,” including Muslims and 
communists, all agreed that UN-led “education” was the key to realizing 
their globalist goals.  
The UN's controversial agenda, also dubbed the “Sustainable Development 
Goals” or SDGs, is basically a recipe for global government, technocracy, 
and socialism.
 And it includes the UN's vision of “education” at the heart of it all. 
Under Agenda 2030, children are described as “critical agents of change”
 whose “infinite capacities for activism” will be weaponized and 
channeled by the UN's “education” schemes into advancing the planetary 
entity's vision of the future. 
The whole program, and especially the education component, is being 
justified under the guise of imposing “sustainable development” on the 
world. And as far as the nebulous, totalitarian concept relates to 
education, the UN has already made clear that more education is actually
 a threat to sustainability. 
“Generally, more highly educated people, who have higher incomes, 
consume more resources than poorly educated people, who tend to have 
lower incomes,” explains a UN “toolkit” for global “sustainable” 
education, which is still posted online at UNESCO's website. 
“In this case, more education increases the threat to sustainability.” 
 Beyond that, when speaking of the UN's “sustainable development” 
ideology, which was formulated with crucial assistance from the mass
-murdering communist dictatorship ruling China,
 it has become clear that the UN really means population control, 
central planning, global governance, and other deeply totalitarian 
schemes. In fact, the UN barely bothers to conceal that anymore.
In Goal 4 of the 17 SDGs, the UN makes clear that its “education” is 
really indoctrination. For example, the document, which has not been 
ratified by the U.S. Senate, demands that all children learn not to just
 accept and submit to “sustainable development,” but to actually 
“promote sustainable development.” The indoctrination program is also 
heavy on the UN's vision of “human rights,” which are essentially the 
opposite of the God-given rights enshrined in America's founding 
And yet, at the UN education summit in late June, UN leaders put a 
smiley face on it all. “I am confident you all agree that inclusive, 
equitable and quality education goes to the heart of the 2030 Agenda,”  
explained President Peter Thomson of the UN General Assembly, which is 
dominated by regimes classified as unfree. Because brainwashing children 
will be critical to imposing the UN's anti-liberty, anti-Christian agenda on 
humanity, Thompson called the UN's idea of education the “golden thread 
that runs through the implementation of all 17 SDGs.”
 “We must educate young people about the logic of the 2030 Agenda for 
Sustainable Development,” he added, never allowing for the possibility 
that children may not agree with globalism and wealth redistribution. 
“They must be taught to take ownership, to serve as agents for change, 
and to be drivers of innovative ways of achieving the SDGs.” 
The changes being proposed are drastic, too. “We have to do no less than
 transform the way we think, invest, partner, and deliver on education,”
 Thompson said, demanding all children be subjected to “universal early 
childhood education.” “We need coherent, practical strategies for the 
development of children’s physical, cognitive, and emotional skills to 
set up positive adult productivity and behavior.” At a previous summit, 
they even called for the UN to shape children's “spirituality.” The 
UN is getting bolder and bolder in the quest to brainwash children all 
over the world with its dangerous ideology. For the sake of faith, 
family, and freedom, Americans must resist.